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Cirsium

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19. Beating the fascists

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:41 PM

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Beating the fascists is the goal, not "getting more Dems." Beating the fascists is whole point of being a Democrat. If we beat the fascists there will be many more Dems. If we count on the cautious play-it-safe middle of the road game we will get neither.

We can campaign with Cheney but we can't work with progressive independents?

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"We can campaign with Cheney but we can't work with progressive independents?" FoxNewsSucks Tuesday #21

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