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Ocelot II

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4. "No Kings" refers more to the traditional power of kings than to any actual king.

Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:32 PM

Jun 15

Historically, some kings were despots and some were not. The power of kings has eroded over the years with the increasing powers of legislatures and parliaments; as early as 1215 King John's power was limited by a group of rebel barons in Magna Carta, and in 1649 Charles I was executed following a held by a court created by the House of Commons (Charles was accused of treason against England by using his power to pursue his personal interest rather than the good of the country). The backlash in Europe from the rise of legislative powers was the development of a philosophy of the "divine right of kings," the notion that kings derived their authority from God and could not be held accountable for their actions by any earthly authority. The French monarchs, especially Louis XIV, relied on this absolutist theory, and George III at least flirted with it, but it didn't work out well for him. Hereditary kings in the 21st century are mostly constitutional monarchs whose only powers are symbolic and ceremonial. Still, "No Kings" is a great slogan that symbolizes our origins as a nation that rebelled from an authoritarian (and possibly mad) king.

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No kings, bit of a misnomer. [View all] Bad Dog Jun 15 OP

"No Kings" GenThePerservering Jun 15 #1

Yep. Raven123 Jun 15 #2

"No A-holes" might have been better. Never liked moniker "No Kings," but the protests were a big success. Silent Type Jun 15 #3

Trump never hinted he wanted to be an A-hole. Of course, that was because he has always been one. Wonder Why Jun 15 #5

Being genetically disposed to it (his grandfather and dad both degenerates), TACO has naturally sunk ... marble falls Jun 15 #29

"No Kings" refers more to the traditional power of kings than to any actual king. Ocelot II Jun 15 #4

It only it were just about kings. Bad Dog Jun 15 #7

The references to King George makes sense; it's a handy reminder Ocelot II Jun 15 #14

What the...? No Kings is Anglophobia? Iggo Jun 15 #6

What else is it? Bad Dog Jun 15 #9

What? I am guessing you wren't there? travelingthrulife Jun 15 #12

Of course not. Bad Dog Jun 15 #23

Odd. For some reason I thought you were criticizing from within. Hekate Jun 15 #40

"The whole march was exercise in American Exceptionalism, dismissive of the rest of the World" ornotna Jun 15 #13

Whut? Ocelot II Jun 15 #15

A handy reminder of your contempt for Britain. Bad Dog Jun 15 #25

That makes no sense at all. I have no idea what you're getting at, Ocelot II Jun 15 #27

This is turning out to be very odd, isn't it? Hekate Jun 15 #41

American Exceptionalism? JustAnotherGen Jun 15 #43

It's Trumpaphobia. Quit trying to start a fight where there is none. Iggo Jun 15 #47

lol what on earth WhiskeyGrinder Jun 15 #8

England is not the only Country edhopper Jun 15 #10

Some countries still have kings. In Europe those countries are parliamentary democracies Ocelot II Jun 15 #17

You want to get rid of all of us? Bad Dog Jun 15 #28

Again - I can't figure out what on earth you're talking about Ocelot II Jun 15 #31

You attacked the other kingdoms in Europe. Bad Dog Jun 15 #34

*I* did nothing of the kind. If by "you," you mean Trump, Ocelot II Jun 15 #36

You have allegedly been on DU long enough to know the diff between us and the far right... Hekate Jun 15 #44

Only one with King George. Bad Dog Jun 15 #24

I'm cool with "No Kings" haele Jun 15 #11

I was raised by parents that were kids during the Irish revolution. Conjuay Jun 15 #16

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Let's ignore the very essence edhopper Jun 15 #18

Spare me the semantics. We need simple, effective slogans. 'No kings' works... Wounded Bear Jun 15 #19

Yes, I think he thinks of himself as more of a Louis XIV, Ocelot II Jun 15 #20

I am the state, see the phrase attributed to Louis XIV below question everything Jun 15 #22

Shorter, fewer syllables than No Autocrats. question everything Jun 15 #21

Wow, you are really over thinking this - Nigrum Cattus Jun 15 #26

it's one of the rare instances we've branded something right and had fun with it cadoman Jun 15 #30

It's a contradiction for sure because from a subconscious level we revere the terms king or queen. Uncle Joe Jun 15 #33

Thanks Bad Dog Jun 15 #37

Over the long haul, we've gotten more corporate media coverage of Uncle Joe Jun 15 #42

+1 leftstreet Jun 15 #45

Are you another one JBTaurus83 Jun 15 #38

It rolls off the tongue JustAnotherGen Jun 15 #39

I'll give you a rec leftstreet Jun 15 #46

That Congress and the judicial branch have the power to stop him is surely a major part of "No Kings" muriel_volestrangler Jun 15 #49

Oh, for Pete's sake. 2MuchNoise Jun 15 #48

Thank you! I'm totally in agreement and it actually creepes me out a bit that we are so damned ignorant msfiddlestix Jun 15 #50

We suffer under Intolerable Acts JustAnotherGen Jun 16 #53

I;m old as dirt and have been involved in activism since the 60's. Psychopathic Oligarchs, might wear crowns of their msfiddlestix Jun 16 #54

This isn't my fight JustAnotherGen Jun 16 #55

I gotcha, and in full agreement regarding reclaiming our democracy, status quo are rigged elections among other things msfiddlestix Jun 16 #57

Oligarchy was a term to describe what the countries of Ukraine and Russia were like AZProgressive Jun 16 #58

Nah. johnp3907 Jun 15 #51

Maybe you give us too much credit, that most would even know the difference between posh and working class accents. 🙂 chia Jun 16 #52

A rose by any other name Torchlight Jun 16 #56