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Wiz Imp

(6,506 posts)
52. They should not be trusted
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:24 AM
Jun 17

The No Kings organizers themselves put the number at 5 million. Protest organizers don't usually low-ball estimates of crowds at their own protests. They may eventually increase their estimate, but until they do theirs is the number that should be trusted.

Here's the No Kings Press Release:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wr0b0dmnfBQ6js-QvZzHJFVChPgpCPad4lbvuHAxXx0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4h93ipge435

No Kings Protests Conclude with Overwhelming Peace and Unity Across the Country

Philadelphia, PA -- Today, in more than 2,100 cities and towns across the country, millions of people joined together for the No Kings Day of Defiance— the largest coordinated protests since President Trump returned to office. From block parties to marches, families, workers, immigrants, and neighbors showed up in the face of military deployments and political threats to affirm a shared truth: we don’t answer to kings, and we will not be ruled by fear.

With hundreds of events still underway, today’s No Kings actions have already drawn more than 5 million participants—nearly 2 million more than the Hands Off protests on April 5.

They brought joy, drums, banners, and faith. They came not to clash—but to claim what is ours: the right to gather, to speak, and to rise. And rise we did—with dignity, love, and powerful resolve. Turnout was overwhelmingly more than initially anticipated. Organizers and local law enforcement reported over 200,000 in New York, over 100,000 in Philadelphia, and in some towns like Pentwater, Michigan saw 400 people join in their small town with a population of 800.

In the face of the Trump administration and several Republican governors deploying the military to intimidate protestors, No Kings organizers clearly and publicly committed to peaceful action, and people across the country showed up anyway—with peace, purpose, and joy.

In response to this historic day of action, the No Kings Coalition issued the following statement:
“Today, across red states and blue, rural towns and major cities, Americans stood in peaceful unity and made it clear: we don’t do kings.
“While Trump and MAGA-aligned governors wasted public dollars on riot gear and fear tactics, the people brought hope, humor, and harmony. A national act of joyful resistance.
“This administration disappears people while cutting their care—slashing healthcare, gutting education, and criminalizing immigrants instead of delivering dignity.
“But today was a reminder: we are still here. Still organizing. Still rising. Still unafraid.
“We don’t do kings in this country. We do solidarity. We do community. We do justice—and we do it together.”

The No Kings coalition is and remains a nonviolent movement. We are heartbroken by the shooting in Minnesota, where State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were tragically killed, and State Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette remain in recovery. Our prayers are with their families, their communities, and all those grieving.

In response, and out of an abundance of caution, we canceled all remaining No Kings events in Minnesota early in the day, following the guidance of Governor Walz and law enforcement as the search continues for the suspect. We honor the leadership of those impacted by this act of political violence by doubling down on our commitment to peace, unity, and democratic freedom. We call on every community—across race, faith, and difference—to reject hate of all forms and stand together against political violence.
TOP MOMENTS FROM THE DAY:

Atlanta, GA: https://www.tiktok.com/@bigmuscletravel/video/7515843615873174815?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCrQthrvbT
Chicago, IL: https://www.tiktok.com/@jessinchicago312/video/7515856697995447595?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCrjIE69eQ
Denver, CO:

Houston, TX: https://www.tiktok.com/@btnewsroom/video/7515836374260387115?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCrnFDMVAs
Knoxville, TN:
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Los Angeles, CA:

Mar-a-Lago, FL:
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Napa Valley, CA (crowd singing):

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New York, NY: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK5Iam9R9oF/?igsh=M3h6cWdnOTBzaHpn
Oklahoma City, OK:

Philadelphia, PA: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveroomphiladelphia/video/7515880331522690310?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCraEmfGYh
San Diego, CA: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8rLN6pV/
San Francisco:

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The Villages, FL:


All No Kings events were organized in coordination with local grassroots partners, grounded in nonviolence, and led by trained volunteers and community leaders committed to safety and solidarity. To view a full list of participating organizations or find photos and footage from the day of action, visit NoKings.org.

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Yes!!!! SheltieLover Jun 16 #1
Go No Kings! Go No Kings! Go No Kings! applegrove Jun 16 #2
Link? Wiz Imp Jun 16 #3
As I posted above dweller Jun 16 #5
You are aware that many, many people here do not have facebook accounts.... Wiz Imp Jun 16 #23
Of course dweller Jun 16 #24
Alternate park service Maggiemayhem Jun 17 #54
Ourparks.org Maggiemayhem Jun 17 #55
lololol Blue_Adept Jun 16 #4
Almost as big as a Trump rally... lame54 Jun 16 #6
THANK YOU FOR THIS POST - THIS IS TRUTH! I attented in NYC and walked the entire route. c-rational Jun 16 #7
In SF where I live I have never seen so many people in the streets. kimbutgar Jun 16 #8
do it again jaymac Jun 16 #9
In the Clackamas Town Center (Oregon) there were LONG lines of people. calimary Jun 16 #29
Post removed Post removed Jun 16 #32
People were smiling!! KT2000 Jun 16 #10
Great! Now we need to convert this activism into votes... Wounded Bear Jun 16 #11
"... can't believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS." mahatmakanejeeves Jun 16 #12
so much this Blue_Adept Jun 16 #13
+1 demmiblue Jun 16 #22
Alt NPS is a resistanceporn dodgy acct., posting bollocks to clout-chase, same as many other BlueAnon grifters out there Celerity Jun 16 #14
100 recs... embarrassing. n/t demmiblue Jun 16 #27
Indicative, but not reliable or definitive. At least they have a methodology. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 16 #28
Zoom mtg by Indivisible tonight to discuss and plan what's next. 2 Meow Momma Jun 16 #39
I do not know anything about Alt NPS just what my gut says, and being an engineer, I like numbers...here we go c-rational Jun 16 #35
I am with you c-rational. I was at that protest march also. jrthin Jun 16 #36
Your math adds up. BigmanPigman Jun 17 #49
"" AllaN01Bear Jun 16 #15
8.3% of the registered voters in 2022 Old Crank Jun 16 #16
We had a group of pro king Un-Americans show up Blue Full Moon Jun 16 #17
Quite a few people were initially pooh-poohing these numbers Brother Buzz Jun 16 #18
Earlier numbers had no methodology and deserved to be pooh-poohed, as I did pooh-pooh them. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 16 #30
Neither have posted dweller Jun 16 #33
Fantastic news! Lets keep the momentum William769 Jun 16 #19
I don't trust this account. n/t demmiblue Jun 16 #20
Even in Red Sarasota, the crowd was substantial. ..and one other sad note... chouchou Jun 16 #21
That doesn't even count the honking cars relayerbob Jun 16 #25
This is the LilElf70 Jun 16 #26
Kick SheltieLover Jun 16 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 16 #34
Thank you Alt NPS. Clouds Passing Jun 16 #37
MSNBC The Weeknight just reported 5 million. I laughed. nt 2 Meow Momma Jun 16 #38
Before the week is out dweller Jun 16 #40
Assholes. Won't they be surprised when Cha Jun 16 #42
Did they mention any methodology? AltNPS is pretty sus, unfortunately. LauraInLA Jun 17 #56
No mention of a methodology to figure it out. 2 Meow Momma Jun 17 #58
Agreed -- I'll take 5M as their reasonable estimate, though I know there were additional protests not registered LauraInLA Jun 17 #59
So Magnificent to be a part of our Cha Jun 16 #41
Mahalo Cha ! dweller Jun 16 #43
So Very Welcome, dweller! Cha Jun 16 #44
Ezra w/ Indivisible said conservative estimate 5 million on a debrief zoom call. 2 Meow Momma Jun 16 #45
That is crazy numbers SunImp Jun 16 #46
Those numbers are very close to what Farmer-Rick Jun 16 #47
Wow!!! 11 million is the 3.5% rule! BigmanPigman Jun 16 #48
No Kings estimates 5M -- trustworthy and a great start. LauraInLA Jun 17 #57
If those numbers are correct, we are now past the 3.5% it takes to overthrow a dictator augyboston Jun 17 #50
They should not be trusted Wiz Imp Jun 17 #52
Compare & contrast NJCher Jun 17 #51
That's a lot purple_haze Jun 17 #53
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