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In reply to the discussion: She Won -- article on rigged 2024 election, with remedy actions [View all]Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)What a weird, wild statement.
The evolution of what is considered a swing state has changed significantly since Obama was president.
Like, in 2012, Ohio and Florida were considered swing states. Guess what? Harris didn't consider them swing states and had both down as a loss.
If you remember, Obama won both Ohio and Florida.
In 2012, Georgia and Arizona were not considered swing states. Obama did not really actively campaign in either. They were considered swing states in 2016, 2020 and 2024. But they were still lean-Republican as both have only gone to the Democrats twice in the past 40 years.
North Carolina was the only "swing state" Obama lost in 2012. And it's a state he barely won in his 2008 landslide. It's also a state the Democrats have one only once in the last 50 years.
Trump won every state he carried in 2016 plus Nevada, in an election where he was far more popular than he had been back during his first run. Anyone who half-paid attention to the polls and what Harris was saying/doing would have known this.
The truth is, Harris' own internal polling always had her down in most swing states, which is why she kept reminding everyone she was the underdog.
People who refuse to accept the reality are sounding no different than election deniers post-2020. Hell, many are employing the same reasoning nearly verbatim.
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