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Martin Eden

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40. Perhaps Iran wants the ultimate deterrent. Their greatest enemies -- Israel and USA -- have nuclear arsenals
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jun 19

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), also known as the Iran nuclear deal, was an agreement between Iran and the United States, European Union, and United Nations Security Council (UNSC) went into effect in 2016. It was the best possible course of action to ensure Iran would NOT enrich uranium to the levels necessary for nuclear weapons.

One might think the Israeli government would breathe a sigh of relief, but not so Bibi Netanyahu. He did not want Iran set on a path of normalized relations politically or economically, and Trump obliged him by trashing the nuclear deal and re-imposing harsh sanctions.

What could anyone expect Iran to do after that, given the history leading up to that point? Iran had a democratically elected government in 1953, but when it decided to nationalize the oil industry Britain had developed, the USA helped stage a coup and appointed the Shah as ruler. After a quarter century of corruption and repression, he was deposed in the Islamic revolution of 1979 that brought the Ayatollah to power. The next year, our guy in Iraq (Saddam Hussein) with intel and WMD precursors supplied by the USA, launched an extremely bloody 8 year war against Iran.

Now we're on the precipice of a major war against Iran that could make the GW Bush fiasco in Iraq look like an actual cakewalk by comparison.

Fuck these goddamned warmongers.

We are not necessarily looking at an either/or choice of horrific war, or letting Iran develop a nuke -- but if it came down to that, I'd choose the latter. Nukes are the ultimate deterrent, but suicide as an offensive weapon when your enemies not only have nukes but vastly superior arsenals. Mutually Assured Destruction kept the Cold War with the Soviet Union from turning into a hot war in which everyone loses.

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A Yellow Cake Walk [View all] H2O Man Jun 19 OP
The significantly increased production and accumulation of highly enriched uranium by Iran... LexVegas Jun 19 #1
The savagey of H2O Man Jun 19 #2
Listened to an BBC interview today of a Iranian Disaffected Jun 19 #9
I don't know. Could it be because Trump and Israel scare the shit out of them? flashman13 Jun 19 #12
Sure but that doesn't explain why Disaffected Jun 19 #20
Exactly! H2O Man Jun 19 #19
Huh?? nt Disaffected Jun 19 #21
Perhaps Iran wants the ultimate deterrent. Their greatest enemies -- Israel and USA -- have nuclear arsenals Martin Eden Jun 19 #40
I guess Canada and Greenland must have some of that "yellow cake" stockpiled! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 19 #3
Greenland threatens us H2O Man Jun 19 #8
We actually use to get material from Canada and sent them product as well. Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #24
Bush jr was in Cincinnati when he spouted about yellow cake. Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #4
Senator Byrd's book H2O Man Jun 19 #10
I highly recommend this OP AZProgressive Jun 19 #5
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 19 #11
I would have voted for Kerry AZProgressive Jun 19 #16
In a just world, Bush & co would've been indicted Easterncedar Jun 19 #6
Absolutely! H2O Man Jun 19 #13
US intelligence says this. Bibi is the one fanning the flames. Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #7
Right. H2O Man Jun 19 #14
He goes with what he sees. Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #22
No guard rails. H2O Man Jun 19 #23
I can't believe that the republicans are actually Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #25
They are cowards H2O Man Jun 19 #29
A timely and thoughtful refresher. littlemissmartypants Jun 19 #15
Right. H2O Man Jun 19 #33
That's his dementia showing Warpy Jun 19 #17
He's farther along than most think. Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #26
Some of it might BE his meds Warpy Jun 19 #32
He's at the yelling stage and needs help to stay upright Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #35
Very well said. H2O Man Jun 19 #34
K&R spanone Jun 19 #18
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 19 #43
21 years ago Saoirse9 Jun 19 #27
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 19 #44
More risky because Saoirse9 Jun 20 #46
I remember it all too well Hekate Jun 19 #28
What a strange time H2O Man Jun 20 #45
They don't have many playbooks stillcool Jun 19 #30
Or, dust off the moldy old playbook; substitute some words and bad actors, and off we go again. erronis Jun 19 #31
yep. Memory can be a real pain. stillcool Jun 19 #36
PNAC to Project 2025 Kid Berwyn Jun 19 #37
Oh Turd Blossom Karl Rove, he's why Texas lost our way MagickMuffin Jun 19 #41
I joined DU in 2002 when Bush/Cheney were beating the war drums to invade Iraq Martin Eden Jun 19 #38
I remember a lot of Lockheed Martin ads on the TVs MagickMuffin Jun 19 #39
Re: the young widow you talked about toward the end, calimary Jun 19 #42
My boys H2O Man Jun 21 #47
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