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lonely bird

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68. I would argue that Trump is a symptom
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:17 AM
Tuesday

Yes, he is a dangerous sociopath.

But there is more at play. The country is organized as a society in a manner that encourages sociopathology. It is sick. It was sick from the moment Europeans set foot on this continent. Not because the people at that time were arbitrarily sociopathic but because the organizing methodology which grew out of the collapse of the feudal system allowed wealth (former nobility) to determine that the stratification of society would be cast in stone under the new system. Attempts to alter that stratification were met with obstruction at best and violence at worst.

While this country can and has made halting steps to level the playing field it will always have a large element that will resist it. That element will also apply any means of coercion, persuasion and violence to keep status quo or reverse any gains.

This country is sick. It suffers from a mental health crisis.

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Until quite recently people were saying that Trump was totally stupid, incompetent, and not at all dangerous Irish_Dem Sep 15 #1
Well stated. Thank you. OLDMDDEM Sep 15 #2
Pelosi said Trump wasn't worth impeaching leftstreet Sep 15 #4
Many people do not realize how dangerous psychopaths are. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #7
True, but you'd hope an elected Rep would leftstreet Sep 15 #8
What are you talking about? Blaming Pelosi for Republicans refusing to impeach Trump? Why? betsuni Sep 15 #51
I've tried many times here to describe to people moniss Sep 15 #25
Yes most people think psychopaths are all psychotic serial killers, like Charles Manson, etc. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #29
Two attempts on my life. nt moniss Sep 15 #38
You are lucky to be alive. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #39
One with drugs and once with a car. moniss Sep 15 #40
Psychopaths are excellent at gaslighting. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #41
Yes and to show you how deep they take you under their influence moniss Sep 15 #45
Yes this is classic, life with a psychopath. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #46
Yep. And more apropos, it seems: Dark n Stormy Knight Tuesday #64
When we read the dystopian novels, we never thought it would come to us full blown. Irish_Dem Tuesday #65
Honestly, I'm pretty generally pessimistic, at best cautiously optimistic. Dark n Stormy Knight Saturday #85
Same here. I am a realist and cynic. Irish_Dem Saturday #91
I know, right? Greed. Lack of true patriotism. Dark n Stormy Knight Sunday #92
Every day is a history lesson revisited. Irish_Dem Sunday #93
I would argue that Trump is a symptom lonely bird Tuesday #68
It's a mental health mess for sure and there's an amplification going on. harumph Tuesday #75
I had to interview one during a domestic violence Phoenix61 Tuesday #71
Democrats have completely underestimated Trump from the beginning. hadEnuf Tuesday #83
Mental health professionals have been warning about Trump for years. Irish_Dem Tuesday #84
She said that because she could count votes. nt Trueblue Texan Sep 15 #16
she said it was too divisive Celerity Sep 15 #50
She said that ALSO because she can count votes Trueblue Texan Tuesday #78
He was impeached MorbidButterflyTat Sep 15 #17
Yikes, and you had to go and interject facts. Eliot Rosewater Sep 15 #49
The Pelosi-bashing addiction is really hard to beat, I guess. Maybe there are patches, Pelosi Patches. betsuni Sep 15 #54
It's utterly pointless MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #60
Guess we're supposed to get upset and not vote because the previous Speaker could count votes betsuni Tuesday #74
because they didn't have the votes in the Senate. The fact is, this should have been stopped in 2016, lostincalifornia Sep 15 #56
And yet the House, under Pelosi, impeached him twice mcar Tuesday #73
Well, in addition to all the things you listed...... SergeStorms Sep 15 #28
He is not a complete ninny or moron. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #31
+1. People spent too much time mocking him and severely underestimated his popular appeal and demonic thirst for power. dalton99a Sep 15 #34
Yes and they do so at their own dire peril. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #36
An inate reptilian cunningness. yellow dahlia Sep 15 #58
Yes exactly. Irish_Dem Sep 15 #59
T is an idiot IbogaProject Tuesday #69
Great points. We, as a society , though, Dark n Stormy Knight Yesterday #94
People don't understand that intellectual functioning is complex Irish_Dem Tuesday #79
And he also hires people just like him mdbl Tuesday #72
He hires ignorant psychopaths who will help him with his crimes. Irish_Dem Tuesday #80
Democratic voters have have always said he was fascist a Nazi and a traitor, Autumn Sep 15 #3
But we have some right here that have tried to minimize the danger that Trump poses and still do so to this day. W_HAMILTON Sep 15 #19
Got a link to any one here who is minimizing the danger Trump Autumn Sep 15 #32
Check my posting history, since I usually respond when I see it. W_HAMILTON Sep 15 #35
I must have the right people on ignore Autumn Sep 15 #37
same Skittles Saturday #90
the fly-under-the-radar trolls Skittles Saturday #89
I tend to think people listen most carefully to those who best validate our biases Torchlight Sep 15 #33
I was aware of what was comming, and it's going to get far worse, and was surprised to see that people weren't taking Dave Bowman Sep 15 #5
No one had ever been exposed.... SergeStorms Sep 15 #30
Many Democrats refused to entertain such a possibility dalton99a Sep 15 #6
Thank you and no, the following which I just read here is total bullshit Eliot Rosewater Sep 15 #9
We are just so conditioned to having white males running things. ananda Sep 15 #10
And not just white males BaronChocula Sep 15 #22
I'm thanking you too! ananda Sep 15 #42
Here ya go Nigrum Cattus Sep 15 #11
Thank you for this post and I hope you remember me as one of which you speak. hamsterjill Sep 15 #12
Thank you, consider yourself included in my "we." Eliot Rosewater Sep 15 #23
Thank you homegirl Sep 15 #24
The alternative for them would be to accept Buddyzbuddy Sep 15 #13
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat Sep 15 #20
Certainly for the most part for term 1. But people saw what he was... electric_blue68 Sep 15 #47
Distraction Ksout Sep 15 #14
Way to miss the point! Ray Bruns Sep 15 #18
Really? Ksout Sep 15 #27
NOTHING TRUMP DOES would be approved by Jesus Skittles Saturday #88
Consider my pearls clutched over the fact that you are put off. Scrivener7 Tuesday #76
it's a killer! Skittles Saturday #87
LOLOLOL!!!!! Skittles Saturday #86
I reached a point . . . AverageOldGuy Sep 15 #15
I paid attention Cirsium Sep 15 #21
Thank you, I am still waiting for a single one of the Eliot Rosewater Sep 15 #26
Well, I held my nose and voted for Hillary. ananda Sep 15 #43
Same here. I dont have to worship or even like a Democrat to vote for them. Autumn Sep 15 #52
Still waiting... Eliot Rosewater Sep 15 #48
"Hold my nose" "lesser of two evils" means "I'm gullible, don't know anything, a very bad judge of character, and betsuni Tuesday #61
And the only criticism of Hillary that was out of the ordinary Eliot Rosewater Tuesday #62
Not letting Republicans fill Supreme Court seats should have been reason enough... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #70
Let me say this. A group of people (not exactly sure who they are) picked TSF as a chosen one, and bluestarone Sep 15 #44
He's been playing the fascist playbook since day one. usonian Sep 15 #53
It could have been ALL AVOIDED in 2016 when the supreme court was at stake. In every swing state, Hillary lost lostincalifornia Sep 15 #55
Exactly, and another 1 to 2% would have been voting for her in all of those states Eliot Rosewater Sep 15 #57
This!!! Take heart. Many of us are with you. Joinfortmill Tuesday #63
I don't understand what's the problem . . . AverageOldGuy Tuesday #66
And those who are insisting that all is well with our response are still not understanding what we are dealing with. Scrivener7 Tuesday #77
Thanks, I need a new keyboard now. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #81
I was on Radio Free Liberal lonely bird Tuesday #67
Too bad others do not see what you just nailed Stargazer99 Yesterday #95
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