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167. Wait, do I still stand accused of *slandering* the the right-wing, fake news source?

Fri Sep 19, 2025, 06:07 PM

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Is that in addition to or instead of *cowardly mincing of words* for pointing out that according to Senate rules and Robert's Rules of Order a "unanimous vote" and "unanimous consent" are two distinctly different things?

So to review:
- The Economic Times is right-wing, fake news trash
- A resolution and a bill are two different things
- A unanimous vote and unanimous consent are two different things
- There was no "unanimous vote" in the Senate on the Kirk resolution
- I am one person, not a "we", although the quizzical flourish at the end of the question was super dramactic.

Query:
In the annals of the Crime of Insisting on Facts and Reputable Sources, which is the more serious crime, "mincing cowardly words" or slandering a right wing, fake news source?

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US Senate UNANIMOUSLY passes Remembrance Day Oct 14th for Kirk [View all] Mr.WeRP Friday OP

Not real happy with this... droidamus2 Friday #1

I hear you, droid... robbob Friday #32

So the fuck what? choie Friday #176

It makes our party look weak and submissive. I'm not sure that voters find those traits appealing. Crunchy Frog Friday #53

Weak? vanlassie Friday #68

99.99% of voters will have no idea such a vote ever even happened. Wiz Imp Friday #184

Agree completely RVN VET71 Saturday #234

Republicans would be running ads with Kirk's KIDS. Miles Archer Friday #121

The headline is fake news. At least 50 senators were not in the chamber lapucelle Saturday #253

I'll remember that he was a racist asshat and film flam salesman JT45242 Friday #2

Best Rebl2 Friday #10

I'll choose to remember the 1st Amendment. RIP. Crunchy Frog Friday #60

Exactly! Rebl2 Friday #94

Make it a national holiday already - and don't forget to erect a statue for the dead troll dalton99a Friday #3

"He had the face of a cabbage-patch doll." CrispyQ Friday #29

I thought he looked a bit like Charlie Brown. Big head. nt Ilsa Saturday #217

Actually- South Park had an episode with a cartoon Charlie Kirk womanofthehills Saturday #240

I believe I saw that episode. Laughed so hard. Looking forward Ilsa Saturday #244

For me, he looks like a Terry Gilliam animation from Monty Python's Flying Circus Montauk6 19 hrs ago #275

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Friday #35

Sure, why not. Mr. Evil Friday #45

The best way to deal with this, absolutely! yardwork Friday #70

They'll probably replace MLK Day with Kirk Day soon Diraven Friday #120

Right....Let's honor Kirk. democrank Friday #4

The word "UNANIMOUSLY" used here was probably wrong KS Toronado Friday #51

The Senate passed the resolution by "unanimous consent" tritsofme Friday #77

I guess no one wanted to stick their neck out and object given the climate around this shooting. It's like 9/11 all over LymphocyteLover Friday #112

Our sp called leaders are all bent. Evrytingfinemon Saturday #220

Did a www search on this subject KS Toronado Friday #122

It passed without objection or "unanimously" in the Senate. tritsofme Friday #127

The House did NOT vote on the day of remembrance for Charlie Kirk. Wiz Imp Friday #188

Thank you. I was reaching for the phone to yell at my two. niyad Saturday #223

That's because no Democrats were in the Chamber when the call for unanimous consent was made. Wiz Imp Friday #186

That is highly implausible, but downright dangerous if true. tritsofme Saturday #264

No they couldn't have done it with just any legislation Wiz Imp Saturday #266

Why do you think the Senate is prohibited from passing legislation by unanimous consent? tritsofme Saturday #269

That's not what I said. What I said is they can't pass legislation with only a handful of people Wiz Imp Saturday #272

There was no quorum: 51 senators were not in the chamber. lapucelle Saturday #260

That does not necessarily mean that fewer than 51 senators were present tritsofme Saturday #263

Sorry to disappoint anyone, but yes it does. lapucelle Saturday #265

The quorum call was rescinded by unanimous consent. tritsofme Saturday #270

Yes, I know. That doesn't mean there was a quorum. lapucelle Saturday #273

Thank you. I'm not sure why people insist on arguing this point Wiz Imp Saturday #271

Fun fact: Schumer's use of a blanket hold on unanimous consent was what slowed confirmation lapucelle Saturday #274

This makes me very angry. travelingthrulife Friday #5

see post 188 Wiz Imp Friday #189

I am so angry it's hard to breathe LearnedHand Friday #6

see post 188 Wiz Imp Friday #190

"It is bad to be oppressed by a minority, but it is worse to be oppressed by a majority." Lord Acton Ping Tung Friday #7

Well, poodles got to poodle. The poodles should write a how to book on how to not inspire people to show up and vote.nt ImNotGod Friday #8

See post 188 Wiz Imp Friday #191

No can do. I'll be busy celebrating the Rocky Horror Picture Show's 50th anniversary. Heidi Friday #9

Damn excellent idea Mr.WeRP Friday #13

LOTS of more worthwhile October 14 celebrations! Heidi Friday #16

Defenders of Ukraine Day. Ada Lovelace Day. National Dessert Day. niyad Saturday #222

YES! Heidi Saturday #228

Good morning, heidi! niyad Saturday #230

50 years? How? hunter Friday #25

I have no answer except the march of time. Heidi Friday #49

My daughter used to act out Janet Mossfern Friday #85

You raised her right! Heidi Friday #109

Tim curry is doing his autobiography! bedazzled Friday #149

I can never watch that scene too many times! wackadoo wabbit Friday #182

We don't have to celebrate it their intended way. Lars39 Friday #11

Wonderful. Can we have a day of remembrance for Charlie Manson, too? Standards are gone. Vinca Friday #12

Congressional Democrats did not vote for a Day of Remembrance Wiz Imp Friday #192

You keep saying, no democrats were present or walked out... do you have a link to support that? questionseverything Saturday #221

I can find no evidence anyone was on the Senate Floor when the resolution Wiz Imp Saturday #235

Finding no evidence they were there is very different from proving they weren't there questionseverything Saturday #237

This reddit comment confirms there were more than 90 Senators absent Wiz Imp Saturday #239

Have you changed from no dems to "two California democrats weren't aware " questionseverything Saturday #242

I'm saying NO DEMOCRATS WERE PRESENT ON THE FLOOR. Wiz Imp Saturday #245

You presented the reddit commenter as proof , not i questionseverything Saturday #248

What name calling? There was no name calling. Wiz Imp Saturday #251

The video doesn't show the entire senate floor , only the podium questionseverything Saturday #254

At least 50 senators were not in the chamber. lapucelle Saturday #243

Cloture was not invoked, and there was no quorum. At least 50 senators were not in the chamber. lapucelle Saturday #241

See this video at the 46 second mark. Wiz Imp Saturday #246

Meanwhile, there are folks roasting Democrats based on inaccurate, right-wing rage bait. N/T lapucelle Saturday #247

There is so much disinformation or misinformation on this thread. Wiz Imp Saturday #255

Congress encompasses both the House and the Senate. It doesn't just mean the House of Representatives. Vinca Saturday #224

The guy who said all Gay people should be stoned to death Eliot Rosewater Friday #14

Or at least to be balanced, rememberance day for George Floyd AND the other one. flor-de-jasmim Friday #15

Better: NO remembrance day/celebration the VILE Charlie Kirk. Heidi Friday #22

see post 192 Wiz Imp Friday #193

I know. We're so lost. ananda Friday #17

Yippers... welcome to Orwellian living standards! slightlv Friday #43

He was a racist, sexist, and homophobic troll Johnny2X2X Friday #18

It was absolutely fucking not necessary for a single Democrat to support this Mr.WeRP Friday #19

There's basically no argument to be made that it was "necessary" BannonsLiver Friday #20

Not only do I agree with you Bannons, slightlv Friday #46

see post 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #195

The day will only have significance for the trolls in the swamp NCDem47 Friday #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Friday #117

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #194

Well shit. Lets make his birthday a federal holiday and name some institutions Autumn Friday #21

They could have abstained, been absent or moniss Friday #23

That is essentially what happened. No one actually cast a vote for the resolution, it passed by unanimous consent tritsofme Friday #81

They knew it was on the agenda and could have moniss Friday #130

I suspect some probably were. onenote Friday #170

They were. No Democrats were present when the call for unanimous Wiz Imp Friday #183

There was no vote. N/T lapucelle Friday #102

Stupid! Celebrating the Kirk hate machine is definitely unAmerican. lark Friday #24

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #196

NO KINGS 2. October 18th - be sure to protest! rurallib Friday #26

unfuckingbelievable StarryNite Friday #27

Limbaugh didn't even get this. Sneederbunk Friday #28

Spineless. DavidDvorkin Friday #30

If I hadn't already changed my affiliation to non-affiliated, I'd do so today. CrispyQ Friday #31

Really Hartpi978 Friday #33

We are living in an evil version of Idiocracy Mr.WeRP Friday #72

The grifting punk BigMin28 Friday #36

Sleeping with the enemy. littlemissmartypants Friday #37

What are these Democrats so afraid of? milestogo Friday #38

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #197

Works for me. liberalgunwilltravel Friday #39

WTF? As a Canadian, I am absolutely disgusted by this move from democrats in the senate. Bev54 Friday #40

just what i thought. oldinmtdem92 Friday #118

The perfect day to remind everyone about what a hate-filled monster Charlie Kirk was. Martin68 Friday #41

Pardon me while I go practice my shocked face. Xavier Breath Friday #42

Perhaps a cheerleader can remind us that Democrats are doing all that they can Orrex Friday #44

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #198

I'm in Hell. pdxflyboy Friday #47

YOU'RE not. But *someone* is. (nt) Heidi Friday #52

I wouldn't count on our party doing too well in the midterms. Crunchy Frog Friday #48

Where's Melissa Hortman's? Blue Full Moon Friday #50

Passed unanimously on June 25th MichMan Friday #73

She wasn't a promoter of bigotry and she didn't get a special, permanent day of remembrance. Ocelot II Friday #137

The poster I replied to asked where was the resolution for Hortman? MichMan Friday #146

It is not a "permanent" day of remembrance. onenote Friday #171

There is no permanent day of remembrance Wiz Imp Friday #199

Did it just condemn the political violence? Or was it also an exercise in hagiography? Crunchy Frog Friday #187

The resolution for the day of remembrance was just to declare a one day day of remembrance Wiz Imp Friday #200

Thanks for the informative answer. Crunchy Frog Saturday #218

Thank you. niyad Saturday #225

Thank you. betsuni Saturday #268

Feel free to go look it up MichMan Friday #203

Thank you. niyad Saturday #226

I'm disgusted beyond all reason. Shame. Nanjeanne Friday #54

Horst Wessel Day! CanonRay Friday #55

Never once passed a vote for the dead kids! Hope22 Friday #56

Our leadership is lost. Soon to have many fewer to lead, I'm afraid. Whyisthisstillclose Friday #57

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #202

I can't believe that my MN Senators voted for this obscenity Ocelot II Friday #58

Why not? They sponsored one several weeks ago that passed unanimously MichMan Friday #80

Kind of a different thing. Ocelot II Friday #92

Why did you single out Minnesota representatives? MichMan Friday #95

Because I live in Minneapolis and was chillingly familiar with the incident. Ocelot II Friday #98

OK, I've just seen multiple posts from people unaware that the House passed a resolution regarding Hortman weeks ago MichMan Friday #104

I was aware of the resolution, but it wasn't the same Ocelot II Friday #136

I suggest you contact your representatives and tell them how angry you are with their vote then MichMan Friday #142

You're misinformed Wiz Imp Friday #204

Melissa Hortman didn't promote malevolence... KPN Friday #110

They (almost certainly) didn't GJGCA Friday #155

You're right; it wasn't based on a vote, but on unanimous consent - Ocelot II Friday #156

They didn't Wiz Imp Friday #201

And Fascism becomes the New Normal Kid Berwyn Friday #59

Don't waste time on this move to real issues themaguffin Friday #61

Bullshit. We need to stand for principals. This is submission Mr.WeRP Friday #64

principles. niyad Saturday #227

When I was a kid, maybe fifth grade, someone had written "principal" when the correct word to use was "principle." Xavier Breath Saturday #252

A very good way to remember! niyad Saturday #256

Yeah just like Pelosi said about Epstein fujiyamasan Friday #140

We have to pick our battles & keeping Kirk in the headlines isn't helpful. FFS. And no this isn't like Pelosi's comment themaguffin Friday #154

How about an Epstein Files Remembrance Day? n/t Shoeless Louis Saturday #216

Just a reminder! This is who these zealots are honoring!🤬 nwduke Friday #62

Thanks nwduke. I'll bookmark "Kirk's list" and oasis Friday #185

I'll reserve my remembrances and praise for Robert Redford wishstar Friday #63

Why don't we celebrate Hitler's Birthday while we're at it? bif Friday #65

That's 420 SocialDemocrat61 Friday #86

Is this a thing JustAnotherGen Friday #66

Every damn year. Mr.WeRP Friday #69

So we undo it JustAnotherGen Friday #101

FALSE. onenote Friday #172

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Friday #162

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Friday #163

Since it's a resolution, that passed via consent I think it's only this year. LeftInTX Friday #163

It's pretty meaningless to be honest Wiz Imp Friday #206

I can't even find words for how perverted this is. 3catwoman3 Friday #67

Next, these misinformed assholes some_of_us_are_sane Friday #71

Dun(kirk) JTOL Friday #74

I'll celebrate Abstractartist Friday #75

Pure politics. Meaningless crap. Hopefully it will divert attention from a racist pig back to lostincalifornia Friday #76

It's fucking terrible politics, are you serious Mr.WeRP Friday #87

I didn't say it was good. I just speculated what I thought their motivation was. lostincalifornia Friday #93

I also question the accuracy of the OP. No way Sanders would have voted for this. lostincalifornia Friday #160

At least 50 senators were not in the chamber when the call for unanimous consent went out. lapucelle Saturday #250

Thank-you lapucelle. Another misleading headline from the MSM. lostincalifornia Saturday #259

What "stunt"? At least 50 senators were not in the chamber when the motion for unanimous consent was called. lapucelle Saturday #249

Our party has no leadership Mr. Sparkle Friday #78

I'm done - zero $$ to the Democratic Party from me. They don't have my back. NoMoreRepugs Friday #79

Yep fuck their pathetic begging emails fujiyamasan Friday #141

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #208

I just shouted down the phone in Sen. Heinrich and Lujan's offices. BadgerMom Friday #82

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #210

ARE YOU FING SERIOUS? Alice B. Friday #83

They made a saint out of a racist shock jock LS0999 Friday #84

I find this incredibly disconcerting angrychair Friday #88

I don't know what to say any more Jarqui Friday #89

Damned cowards. THey should have boycotted the vote, but more importantly ... Bluetus Friday #90

There was no vote. It passed by unanimous consent. lapucelle Friday #106

Nonetheless, where is the Dem strategy here? Bluetus Friday #134

This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyamasan Friday #174

Fuck that noise. I'll not be supporting an action that supports the false narrative about what kind of person Kirk was. Solly Mack Friday #91

He's not worthy of such an honor. patphil Friday #96

Weenies!! Walleye Friday #97

Have you lost your f.cking minds? Buddyzbuddy Friday #99

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #212

It is an annual? But it does seem to indicate where this nation is at this point in time. LiberalArkie Friday #100

see post 206 Wiz Imp Friday #211

And if Paul Pelosi would have died from being BEAT WITH A HAMMER TO THE HEAD Bengus81 Friday #103

wth? regardless of cause of death, awful humans do not deserve this. kerouac2 Friday #105

At the very least the Democrats should have ADDED ALL school shootings to bluestarone Friday #107

They want a day to honor Kirk? Okay. Dem2theMax Friday #108

Have we heard anything angrychair Friday #111

I'm surprised the Magat crowd doesn't want a national holiday for him. walkingman Friday #113

Maybe call it Bullies and Cowards Day Stinky The Clown Friday #114

Oct 14 is party time. Let's boogie. twodogsbarking Friday #115

When the go low, we give them a Holiday !!! leftstreet Friday #116

There is no Holiday. Wiz Imp Friday #213

Grrrrr Smilo Friday #119

Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die: Into the valley of Death twodogsbarking Friday #123

Good Lord! Two weeks ago 70% of the country couldn't have picked this guy out of a lineup. rsdsharp Friday #124

A Democrat should have at least stood and recited Kirk's own words from the well of the Senate, sop Friday #125

WTAF? bluescribbler Friday #126

Horst Wessel Day Pachamama Friday #128

As you said. Dawson Leery Friday #129

😡 spanone Friday #131

Right before the next No Kings Marches so left will be blamed for breaking the FAKE 'PEACE' blm Friday #132

The headline is inaccurate rage bait, and the Economic Times is a right wing source lapucelle Friday #133

NO DEMOCRAT VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION because no vote was taken. lapucelle Friday #135

Mincing cowardly words are we? Typical cover for nonsense Mr.WeRP Friday #143

Wait, do I still stand accused of *slandering* the the right-wing, fake news source? lapucelle Friday #167

Who are you calling "cowardly", Mr Werp? Cha Friday #205

It appears that it's cowardly to call out right wing, fake news sources and the lies lapucelle Saturday #238

That's a Good Motto to have.. It goes Well Cha Saturday #262

The financial times is hardly right wing fujiyamasan Friday #144

The OP cites the Economic Times, not the Financial Times. I corrected my headline. lapucelle Friday #161

The Economic times is a sensationalistic Indian newspaper fujiyamasan Friday #166

I stand accused of *slandering* the Economic Times for calling out the inaccuracy of its rage bait headline. lapucelle Friday #169

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Friday #214

Inaccurate yet you provide no evidence than to slander the source? Mr.WeRP Friday #147

To begin with, it was a resolution, not a bill, and no roll call vote was taken. lapucelle Friday #152

It seems very unlikely. I doubt Sanders voted for this, and also other Senate Democrats also lostincalifornia Friday #159

Boo, boo, boo, boo, Hotler Friday #138

WTF Blue Owl Friday #139

The way the party is doing fujiyamasan Friday #145

Dispiriting La Coliniere Friday #148

It will be a good day, set aside, to reflect upon.... LudwigPastorius Friday #150

What the holy hell? They expect us to vote for them? Joinfortmill Friday #151

This will go down in the annals of history as being even more consequential than... LudwigPastorius Friday #153

I assume they worked across the aisle day and night to get that landmark legislation passed Bluetus Friday #175

Ugh.... sakabatou Friday #157

Hate it, but DownriverDem Friday #158

Remember RETHUGS are figuring out what we hate most. THEN bluestarone Friday #165

Shameful. Passages Friday #168

Point of clarification. It's an abomination, but its not a law and its not permanent. onenote Friday #173

Senate Democrats did not vote unanimously for the Republican's Charlie Kirk Day stunt Quiet Em Friday #177

Disgusting. mdbl Friday #178

AND on Oct., 18th US citizens plan 2,000+ NO KINGS protests! BigmanPigman Friday #179

But will they honor his last wish? usonian Friday #180

Should play some of his greatest clips Historic NY Friday #181

Garbage In EQUALS Garbage Out MrWowWow Friday #207

I quit, thanks for nothing. dem4decades Friday #209

Can't believe all the angst over a stupid resolution MichMan Saturday #215

Yeah, but... onenote Saturday #232

BOO! HISS! IzzaNuDay Saturday #219

Will they force employers to give workers the Emile Saturday #229

No. It doesn't force anyone to do anything. onenote Saturday #231

Hmmm lonely bird Saturday #233

This is fucking stupid DenaliDemocrat Saturday #236

Celebrate Remberance Day for the One and Only. Orange Asshole Day on June 14th, too. Donman Saturday #257

My remembrance will be 'thank God and grayhound your GONE'. republianmushroom Saturday #258

Sorry. I wouldn't be lowering my flag. Even if I had one. GoodRaisin Saturday #261

I'll be sitting on the toilet taking a dump that day. durablend Saturday #267

Hope we can take this off our calendars later. I would hate to have to look at this very year. flying_wahini 19 hrs ago #276

Unanimous consent is nothing more than rzemanfl 18 hrs ago #277