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LogDog75

(860 posts)
47. Commanders don't have the authority to absolve their personnel of wrongdoing
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:13 PM
Saturday

As a 28-year AF veteran, I'm familiar with the military chain of command and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Commanders are limited on the legal actions they can take on their personnel. They do not have the authority to absolve anyone before or after and action has taken place. If military personnel carry out an order, regardless of being a legal or illegal order, the person issuing the order and the person(s) following the order are held responsible for their action.

It is not up to the commander to decide on whether the order is illegal but up to the military justice system. Prior to indicting anyone, an Article 32 investigation is held to determine if there sufficient evidence to charge an individual or individuals. If charges are recommended, then the person(s) involved will face a court martial. A military court martial is not a slam dunk for the prosecution. The prosecution has to prove the charges against the individual(s) to a court martial panel (jury) just like a district attorney has to prove the charges against a defendant in a civilian trial. If the individual(s) is found guilty, the case is automatically appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces.

In short, the commander cannot absolve anyone of obey an illegal order.

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It was an illegal order and the rank and file know it. Klarkashton Friday #1
I can't disagree. paleotn Friday #2
They have to stop worrying about getting some BS letters and start refusing to obey what they clearly know Liberal In Texas Friday #4
Don't hold your breath. These are between war military Klarkashton Friday #5
And now we know why the JAG Corp was decimated. No one left to go to for help when given illegal orders? Attilatheblond Saturday #48
There are still JAGs mahina Saturday #50
Yeah, but not nearly as many Attilatheblond Saturday #55
A letter doesn't "absolve" one of following an illegal order Prairie Gates Friday #16
Yes it is ridiculous. A letter from your CO doesn't cover you for committing murder. Irish_Dem Saturday #35
This Oldvet Saturday #49
Didn't I read they shithole gonna.. Lovie777 Friday #3
Trump already did. Klarkashton Friday #7
Being told "no, it really is okay to follow these orders" doesn't absolve one from RockRaven Friday #6
No way is maga congress going to do an investigation . Klarkashton Friday #8
Yes, look at William Callie, markodochartaigh Saturday #19
This is not rumor AverageOldGuy Friday #9
He is ramping up his brinksmanship. There will be a breaking point. usonian Saturday #26
Can you imagine, after all you've gone through to achieve flag rank. paleotn Saturday #34
That is the point. To humiliate and degrade the US military. Irish_Dem Saturday #36
In Nuremberg, Nazis who claimed they were just following orders Jarqui Friday #10
Nope canetoad Saturday #29
Maybe I did not express myself well Jarqui Saturday #31
It doesn't matter - we first need to get to the point where AdamGG Saturday #42
They hit another one a couple of hours ago. iemanja Friday #11
Oh no. America just murders now? BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #13
That is nothing new Lbn2 Saturday #56
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No. ReRe Saturday #22
Not sure what you mean by "No". PufPuf23 Saturday #25
I'm sorry. ReRe Saturday #28
It's probable Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller AdamGG Saturday #43
How many letters do you think you'll need when they start ordering you to kill fellow Americans? Scalded Nun Friday #14
6 year Navy vet here.. Permanut Saturday #24
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UCMJ covers it. paleotn Saturday #32
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I haven't heard any news of them possibly being charged Kaleva Saturday #39
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Unfortunately WmChris Saturday #45
How many has he ordered blown up? Three? Katinfl Saturday #46
Commanders don't have the authority to absolve their personnel of wrongdoing LogDog75 Saturday #47
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In the military, it all rolls downhill dlk Saturday #52
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