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Showing Original Post only (View all)New research: Citizens United Can Be Made Irrelevant Via Changes To State Corporation Law [View all]
Last edited Mon Sep 22, 2025, 09:04 AM - Edit history (2)
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Here are the summary quotes that provide the basic context of the argument:
Justice Byron White's dissent 1986 SCOTUS Bowers v. Hardwick:
"The state need not let it's own creation consume it."
🔸 Corporate rights: ➪ Courts Protect
🔸 Corporate powers: ➪States Grant
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Analysis:
Fifteen years after Citizens United opened the floodgates of corporate and dark money, the Center for American Progress has figured out how to slam them back shut.
On Monday, CAP released "The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant"
This groundbreaking plan is the first challenge to Citizens United with a strong chance of surviving legal review. It rests on bedrock constitutional and corporate lawand every state in America can act on it right now. Montana is already moving forward as the test case
Heres the move: Corporations are creatures of state law. They start with zero powers, and states choose which powers to grant. When a state rewrites its corporation laws to no longer grant the power to spend in politics, that power simply does not exist. And without the power, theres no right to protect.
The result is sweeping: No corporate or dark money in ballot measures, local races, state electionsor even federal elections within the state.
What seems to have happened is 100 years ago, states gave corps every power to do everything legal under the law, not dreaming that that would mean unlimited spending in elections. When 2010 and Citizens United rolled around, SCOTUS said, well, spending in politics is legal, so that must be on the list of powers given to corps when they gave them the power to do anything legal. And if they have the power to do it, they have the right to do it.
This whole effort says: Um, no. That was never meant to be on the list of powers we handed our corps, and to be extra clear about it this time, so you dont screw this up again, were going to pass legislation that makes absolutely clear that that political-spending power is NOT on the list of powers we give out corporations.
This doesnt overturn Citizens United or violate it. It just clearly creates a new kind of corporation the kind states thought they were creating all along that does not have the power to spend in politics.
Two more quick points:
Supremacy Clause: were not regulating a right; were defining the corporate vehicle so it doesnt include that power. Rights protect an existing power. If the state never grants that power to its corporations, theres no right to attach to. People and PACs still speak.
Foreign corporations: states already say an out-of-state company cant exercise any power in the state that a local corporation doesnt have. So Delaware/Wyoming/Nevada charters dont create a loophole inside the state that adopts this.
This whole effort says: Um, no. That was never meant to be on the list of powers we handed our corps, and to be extra clear about it this time, so you dont screw this up again, were going to pass legislation that makes absolutely clear that that political-spending power is NOT on the list of powers we give out corporations.
This doesnt overturn Citizens United or violate it. It just clearly creates a new kind of corporation the kind states thought they were creating all along that does not have the power to spend in politics.
Two more quick points:
Supremacy Clause: were not regulating a right; were defining the corporate vehicle so it doesnt include that power. Rights protect an existing power. If the state never grants that power to its corporations, theres no right to attach to. People and PACs still speak.
Foreign corporations: states already say an out-of-state company cant exercise any power in the state that a local corporation doesnt have. So Delaware/Wyoming/Nevada charters dont create a loophole inside the state that adopts this.
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MayReasonRule
Sunday
OP
It is! The Citizens United decision happened 15 years ago, and has been destroying our country since.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#6
It appears that if you get Delaware on board, you get the vast majority of corporations. 81% in 2024.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#7
Indeed, That Was My First Thought As Well Until They Mentioned Deleware Within The Audio Summary
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#18
But if you got Delaware and the blue states, you cover a lot of the necessary ground.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#8
But, tell me if I understand this right: a state can regulate a corporation's activities to
Scrivener7
Sunday
#60
How would a state prevent TV commercials from another state from entering their airwaves?
MichMan
Sunday
#14
Regional ads are used all the time. Add a regulation, and use that same technology.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#21
Yes, and if you live in the vicinity of a state border, you see or hear them all the time.
MichMan
Sunday
#22
OK. So? Are you saying it shouldn't be done because a few people at the border will
Scrivener7
Sunday
#24
Because that would be overturned under numerous FCC, interstate commerce, and First Amendment grounds
MichMan
Sunday
#30
What would be overturned? You'd be limiting the money from the corporations being spent anywhere.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#34
So Illinois could pass a law not allowing a corporation chartered in South Dakota from airing TV ads in Indiana?
MichMan
Sunday
#39
No. It has nothing to do with that. Delaware passes the law. All the corporations that are chartered
Scrivener7
Sunday
#46
Well, then, you should call the Center for American Progress and tell them you have more important things to do
Scrivener7
Sunday
#55
It's really a great idea. It doesn't take care of the billionaires and their pacs, but it does
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#64
Lol No. What Reeks Of Authoritarianism Is Having The Government Run By Corporations It's The Very Definition Of Fascism
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#28
Waiting to hear how you prevent TV and Radio ads from other states from crossing state lines
MichMan
Sunday
#31
There Are Technological Challenges, Nonetheless This Would Have A Profoundly Positive Impact Overall
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#33
I still don't get your issue. It's a matter of where the corporations incorporate, not where ads go.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#35
If I understand you, if Illinois passed this law, any corporation from Illinois couldn't make political contributions
MichMan
Sunday
#41
The vast majority of corporations are incorporated in Delaware. Delaware passes the law.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#48
No. It's not the state that's involved. It's the corporation. It's not the location of the ad that's restricted,
Scrivener7
Sunday
#50
Early in our history, corporations existed in a much more limited scope for a reason
ToxMarz
Sunday
#25
They Discuss This Within The Twenty MInute Audio Linked Within The Body Of The Post
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#29
What's to stop the MAGA SCOTUS from declaring the rewritten state laws unconstitutional?
Fiendish Thingy
Sunday
#32
States Grant Corporations Particular Powers And Without That Power Corporations Have No Rights To Contest
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#36
Happy Sunday Again Y'all - I Really Appreciate Folks Like You That Desire To Dig Into The Heart Of The Matter
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#38
No Doubt That There Are Officers Of The Court Within This Forum That Might Provide Greater Insight...
MayReasonRule
Sunday
#45
I'm sure it's that you're just smarter than all the people in CAP who've been studying this.
Scrivener7
Sunday
#56