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EarlG

(23,205 posts)
16. To be clear
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:03 PM
Sep 24

I'm not trying to make the point that only one "side" is responsible for violence, because clearly both Republicans and Democrats have been shot by crazies. But as far as I'm concerned, only one side has spent decades encouraging and cultivating the idea that the way to deal with government overreach is to commit gun violence against the government.

This nation was founded by people who stood up against tyranny and used violence to overthrow their previous rulers, so they could create their own government -- and we celebrate that. But violence is, and should always be, a last resort used for self defense. Over the past couple of decades -- you can see examples in my OP, but there are hundreds of other examples -- Republicans have mainstreamed the idea of violence against the government, right up to and including their attempt to essentially kill congresspeople and the vice president on January 6, 2021, which resulted in injuries to 140 police officers, and which Republicans later dismissed as a violence-free love fest committed by "tourists."

Presumably Republicans believed that the only fallout from all these years of encouraging people to see the government -- or other people in positions of power and authority -- as something worthy of shooting at if you disagree with them, would be that their "side" would shoot at our "side." But the problem with opening this Pandora's box of "might makes right" ideology is that we are all exposed to it.

Republicans have spent decades brainwashing Americans into believing that the simple solution to something you disagree with is to shoot at it. They've done this while also making it significantly easier for anyone to get their hands on powerful weapons of war. And now they're operating elements of the government in a manner which could genuinely be described as tyrannical -- masked agents roaming the streets without ID, kidnapping people and disappearing them into foreign torture prisons, ignoring court orders, dehumanization and blatant corruption in broad daylight blasted daily from the president on down... they're creating the exact conditions that they've spent decades telling people should be fought against with gun violence.

And then they have the gall to say, "Hey everyone, let's tone down the rhetoric."

All I have to say is [View all] EarlG Sep 24 OP
All I have to say is - "DON'T TAKE TYLENOL" walkingman Sep 24 #1
DURec leftstreet Sep 24 #2
Those guys look like they should be driving those old little Toyota pickups. twodogsbarking Sep 24 #3
+1,000,000,000,000,000 highplainsdem Sep 24 #4
Excellent post. sheshe2 Sep 24 #5
I'm sure you could probably find even more examples too. llmart Sep 24 #6
It's why both-siders keep having to go back to 2017 BaronChocula Sep 24 #7
The guy who shot Scalise? Was he really a Democrat? I don't think so. Walleye Sep 24 #12
His affiliations were a lot less clear BaronChocula Sep 24 #22
What got me about the whole thing, was that Scalise was still pro-gun after he nearly died Walleye Sep 24 #26
That got me, too! What does it take?! Rhiannon12866 Sep 24 #29
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall... GiqueCee Sep 24 #15
To be clear EarlG Sep 24 #16
I think we're in agreement n/t BaronChocula Sep 24 #23
You make a great point EarlG odins folly Sep 24 #39
Great. OP malaise Sep 24 #8
Thank you EarlG. Now how do we get this on the front page of every newspaper? 1WorldHope Sep 24 #9
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Sep 24 #36
People still read newspapers? progressoid Sep 24 #42
thank you for this. I think this kind of summary is also the responsibility of MSM outlets, pundits, newsrooms wiggs Sep 24 #10
Epic Grim Chieftain Sep 24 #11
Amen. Wednesdays Sep 24 #13
And the threat is REAL BurnDoubt Sep 24 #14
KnR Hekate Sep 24 #17
republicans want a war mountain grammy Sep 24 #18
Mentally ill and heavily armed IronLionZion Sep 24 #19
Another submission for your OP... PunkinPi Sep 24 #20
Interested to know the reaction if she was a Democrat. BurnDoubt Sep 24 #38
By her own party's standards, Winsome Earle-Sears is super DEI. Norrrm Sep 25 #51
K & R! Thank you EarlG FakeNoose Sep 24 #21
Well said Mr. G Botany Sep 24 #24
Perspective... littlemissmartypants Sep 24 #25
RW media flipped that Bundy time pic as being a Federal agent underpants Sep 24 #27
"When do we get to use the guns?" Kid Berwyn Sep 24 #28
bookmarked proud patriot Sep 24 #30
Well said Wild blueberry Sep 24 #31
The generation that grew up in a hail of gunfire is old enough to take up arms. Queso Delicioso Sep 24 #32
Well said!!! mzmolly Sep 24 #33
K & R Permanut Sep 24 #34
Thank you for that stark reminder, Earl. peggysue2 Sep 24 #35
Thank you! yellow dahlia Sep 24 #37
Exactly right. WestMichRad Sep 24 #40
BINGO pbmus Sep 24 #41
The Justice Department needs to do a detailed study on domestic violence. Gimpyknee Sep 24 #43
GOP - GunsOverPeople red dog 1 Sep 24 #44
K&R spanone Sep 24 #45
I'm confused. If 2A violence may be necessary to stand up against a tyrannical government... Martin Eden Sep 24 #46
This is a gun control issue as much as anything. The GOP has promoted and defended applegrove Sep 25 #47
Nothing says "Peace on Earth" and celebrating the birth of Jesus,Prince of Peace like political leaders posing on their KitFox Sep 25 #48
K&R mdbl Sep 25 #49
K&R ck4829 Sep 25 #50
"when our government becomes tyrannical..." Norrrm Sep 25 #52
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