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(51,046 posts) Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:46 AM Sep 28

So, effective November 17 Paypal is going to apply changes that will collect everything about you, under the sun. [View all]

My red flag alert tells me it's time to find another payment service. But, here are some things they say they will collect:

Personal identifiers, including IP address,

Geo locations

Face scans, voice and photo id

professional and employment information

Sensitive personal information such as ssn,

It's pretty invasive. So, before I pitch Paypal, I just want to know if this is where they're all going? And is there a service which, at least, Elon Musk didn't help originate? Thanks.

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So, effective November 17 Paypal is going to apply changes that will collect everything about you, under the sun. [View all] Baitball Blogger Sep 28 OP

Consequences of the Genius Act bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #1

Thank you for posting this important information Raven123 Sep 28 #2

Thanks for this. Hopefully, some DUer has an alternative option idea. Scrivener7 Sep 28 #3

What I'm looking for is something that is recognized by online vendors, but isn't so invasive in Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #4

And maybe the answer is to just go back to straight credit card. Scrivener7 Sep 28 #5

Read over the new privacy statement. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #11

There is usually a direct pay option. I do that at work with a company card. underpants Sep 28 #26

Good to know!! Thanks!! Scrivener7 Sep 28 #36

Is there an article you can post? How the hell are they going to collect face scans, voice and hlthe2b Sep 28 #6

They re a multi-billion dollar business. OldBaldy1701E Sep 28 #8

That is our fear. Is there a well-resourced, authoritative article that documents ANY of this? hlthe2b Sep 28 #9

Such an article would be bad for business, so I doubt they would 'allow' it. OldBaldy1701E Sep 29 #38

Many companies are already using biometric scans to verify ID Abnredleg Sep 28 #13

Duh. Yeah, I have an Iphone, laptop, etc. But, I do not allow them to collect facial recognition hlthe2b Sep 28 #17

There's no need for the faux-outrage Abnredleg Sep 28 #22

I do not respond well to condescension. I'm guessing you don't either. You were not hlthe2b Sep 28 #25

The user is the source if they voluntarily choose to be Abnredleg Sep 28 #27

It will be easy to collect this from heavy social media users milestogo Sep 28 #19

"Easy to collect--not easy to utilize..." Ever seen data on the number of passport photos rejected? hlthe2b Sep 28 #20

Paypal already collects most if not all of that data. onenote Sep 28 #7

Known. Where is the info about FACIAL recognition? hlthe2b Sep 28 #10

See the part of the privacy policy labelled "Biometric" onenote Sep 28 #14

Source of these biometrics? I've never had my face scanned. Have you? hlthe2b Sep 28 #15

Facial scan is an optional means of identity for PayPal Abnredleg Sep 28 #23

Yes I have onenote Sep 28 #29

I'll have to give it a closer look to see if I spot the differences. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #12

And that's why I don't use Paypal . . . hatrack Sep 28 #16

I don't use any of these services. I use my credit card. If I need to give someone money, I write them a check. Raftergirl Sep 28 #18

Lots of places force you to use Google Pay or PayPal and won't take a credit card dwayneb Sep 29 #40

I joined a You Tube channel and I pay every month with my CC. I have also bought the content creator Raftergirl Sep 29 #41

My debit card seems instant enough for me. bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #21

Thanks. Yes, time to find another pay system or just drop them. yes. yes riversedge Sep 28 #24

I think you'll find that all pay systems have similar policies Abnredleg Sep 28 #28

Glad I finally got around to cancelling my paypal account recently. Talitha Sep 28 #30

I have a paypal account, but I almost never use it. DFW Sep 28 #31

Check their privacy and/or update section. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #32

OK; I'll look for that, thanks! n/t DFW Sep 28 #34

I only used it once for a limited time and I've already killed my account. lindysalsagal Sep 28 #33

Thank you! Just closed my account. ananda Sep 28 #35

I kicked pay pal to the curb ages ago, B.See Sep 28 #37

My PayPal account was hacked on Ebay. I Emile Sep 29 #39

Cash is king, ok not, but maybe it sould be. Prairie_Seagull Sep 29 #42