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hlthe2b

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25. I do not respond well to condescension. I'm guessing you don't either. You were not

Sun Sep 28, 2025, 12:11 PM

Sep 28

answering my question, but far closer to the former. You have now, however, tried to do so, and I DO appreciate it. Your pulling out these updates does address some of it:

Voluntary verification process: In a separate help article, PayPal clarifies that a new biometric identity verification process is offered to individual customers for enhanced security. This involves scanning a government-issued photo ID and taking a selfie to confirm identity. Customers can opt out and use an alternative verification method via a computer.

Requirement for consent: The collection of biometric information is based on user consent within the PayPal app.

Data retention policies: Reportedly, PayPal may retain biometric data for up to three years after an account is closed, though users have raised privacy concerns about this.

We are all very uncomfortable about the excesses, grotesque illegalities, and plans from the administration and its enablers--including big business. If we are to respond, we need to see valid and documented information from reliable sources. Not presumptions or panic-driven social media offerings. THAT is the FAUX OUTRAGE we should all be concerned with.

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So, effective November 17 Paypal is going to apply changes that will collect everything about you, under the sun. [View all] Baitball Blogger Sep 28 OP

Consequences of the Genius Act bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #1

Thank you for posting this important information Raven123 Sep 28 #2

Thanks for this. Hopefully, some DUer has an alternative option idea. Scrivener7 Sep 28 #3

What I'm looking for is something that is recognized by online vendors, but isn't so invasive in Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #4

And maybe the answer is to just go back to straight credit card. Scrivener7 Sep 28 #5

Read over the new privacy statement. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #11

There is usually a direct pay option. I do that at work with a company card. underpants Sep 28 #26

Good to know!! Thanks!! Scrivener7 Sep 28 #36

Is there an article you can post? How the hell are they going to collect face scans, voice and hlthe2b Sep 28 #6

They re a multi-billion dollar business. OldBaldy1701E Sep 28 #8

That is our fear. Is there a well-resourced, authoritative article that documents ANY of this? hlthe2b Sep 28 #9

Such an article would be bad for business, so I doubt they would 'allow' it. OldBaldy1701E Sep 29 #38

Many companies are already using biometric scans to verify ID Abnredleg Sep 28 #13

Duh. Yeah, I have an Iphone, laptop, etc. But, I do not allow them to collect facial recognition hlthe2b Sep 28 #17

There's no need for the faux-outrage Abnredleg Sep 28 #22

I do not respond well to condescension. I'm guessing you don't either. You were not hlthe2b Sep 28 #25

The user is the source if they voluntarily choose to be Abnredleg Sep 28 #27

It will be easy to collect this from heavy social media users milestogo Sep 28 #19

"Easy to collect--not easy to utilize..." Ever seen data on the number of passport photos rejected? hlthe2b Sep 28 #20

Paypal already collects most if not all of that data. onenote Sep 28 #7

Known. Where is the info about FACIAL recognition? hlthe2b Sep 28 #10

See the part of the privacy policy labelled "Biometric" onenote Sep 28 #14

Source of these biometrics? I've never had my face scanned. Have you? hlthe2b Sep 28 #15

Facial scan is an optional means of identity for PayPal Abnredleg Sep 28 #23

Yes I have onenote Sep 28 #29

I'll have to give it a closer look to see if I spot the differences. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #12

And that's why I don't use Paypal . . . hatrack Sep 28 #16

I don't use any of these services. I use my credit card. If I need to give someone money, I write them a check. Raftergirl Sep 28 #18

Lots of places force you to use Google Pay or PayPal and won't take a credit card dwayneb Sep 29 #40

I joined a You Tube channel and I pay every month with my CC. I have also bought the content creator Raftergirl Sep 29 #41

My debit card seems instant enough for me. bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #21

Thanks. Yes, time to find another pay system or just drop them. yes. yes riversedge Sep 28 #24

I think you'll find that all pay systems have similar policies Abnredleg Sep 28 #28

Glad I finally got around to cancelling my paypal account recently. Talitha Sep 28 #30

I have a paypal account, but I almost never use it. DFW Sep 28 #31

Check their privacy and/or update section. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #32

OK; I'll look for that, thanks! n/t DFW Sep 28 #34

I only used it once for a limited time and I've already killed my account. lindysalsagal Sep 28 #33

Thank you! Just closed my account. ananda Sep 28 #35

I kicked pay pal to the curb ages ago, B.See Sep 28 #37

My PayPal account was hacked on Ebay. I Emile Sep 29 #39

Cash is king, ok not, but maybe it sould be. Prairie_Seagull Sep 29 #42