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14. Yes, in the end, it will be the voters of Maine who make the decision...

Wed Oct 29, 2025, 07:05 AM

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but considering that the voters of Maine keep electing Susan Collins, that doesn't speak much to their credit or defense. Also, in high profile challenges like this (especially to someone as well known as Collins) I think it's perfectly natural and to be expected that there will be national interest in who the Democratic nominee will be. Also, we all know that these types of high-profile and bellweather elections (and any off-year election) will draw in donations nationally. Sometimes for the best candidate, and other times for the most-defeatable candidate, or the spoiler candidate (as we saw when the GOP was donating to Stein). I guess what I'm saying is that the "big guns from the DNC" have a legitimate interest in this because it's not "just a local election". This is something that could sway the balance in the Senate. We don't need need purity, we just need a WIN... we need an EASY WIN... and with the baggage this guy has (being anti-gay, misogynistic, racist, violent... and the Nazi totenkopf) along with everything else that shows poor decisions and an unwillingness to own/apologize/cover-up until it's politically expedient and necessary... that's someone who does not have the ability easily win against a popular incumbent like Collins.

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I do not believe that Graham Platner was an advocate for the anti-Harris "Leave it Blank" movement. QueerDuck Oct 29 #1

I see a lot of Dem establishment push back on Platner Easterncedar Oct 29 #2

Yes, in the end, it will be the voters of Maine who make the decision... QueerDuck Oct 29 #14

I don't disagree Easterncedar Oct 29 #73

Well, she's popular enough to be elected governor and in the current climate of anti-GOP sentiment... QueerDuck Oct 29 #76

Platner is way more progressive than Mills Easterncedar Oct 29 #80

I do not find anti-gay slurs, racist rhetoric, or violent misogyny or a lack of forthcomingness regarding the Totenkopf... QueerDuck Oct 29 #94

Hm. MorbidButterflyTat Oct 29 #103

As Democrats, we can do better and not leap for the first fellow that comes along with a high profile endorsement. QueerDuck Oct 29 #105

He needs vetting... 2naSalit Oct 29 #45

The state that keeps electing Susan Collins awesomerwb1 Oct 29 #55

LOL leftstreet Oct 29 #67

We need a coalition that will sink her Easterncedar Oct 29 #74

Platner jaymac Oct 29 #72

They'd be speaking out against FDR if he were running today. sop Oct 29 #3

They still hate him. Clouds Passing Oct 29 #44

Which Democrats ganged up against Mamdani? Raven123 Oct 29 #4

Most Democrats didnt support him at first SSJVegeta Oct 29 #6

Really?? SocialDemocrat61 Oct 29 #11

During the Primary? edhopper Oct 29 #30

Which Democrats are endorsing Cuomo? yardwork Oct 29 #41

Have you googled list of democrats who are endorsing Cuomo? Emile Oct 29 #46

It's a pretty insignificant number Quiet Em Oct 29 #50

So there are some, thanks. Emile Oct 29 #52

Yeah, but outside of Eric Adams most people don't know who these very few people are Quiet Em Oct 29 #54

Democrats who endorsed Cuomo other than Eric Adams are insignificant. Thanks Emile Oct 29 #57

Well, I think Eric Adams is insignificant as well Quiet Em Oct 29 #60

Together we discovered there are Democrats endorsing the Independent over the Democratic nominee. Emile Oct 29 #61

Did you look at the list of Democrats endorsing Zohran Mamdani? Quiet Em Oct 29 #62

Yes, thank goodness. I hate to think Democrats would endorse the Centrist Independent Cuomo over Emile Oct 29 #64

Well, he is at odds with many Democratic positions, especially Israel Polybius Oct 29 #114

I think, in this case the phrase "ganged up" actually means... QueerDuck Oct 29 #7

Thanks. That's what I wondered Raven123 Oct 29 #28

Not a comprehensive list but here are the ones MadameButterfly Oct 29 #19

Jeffries endorsed him last week... PunkinPi Oct 29 #26

Yes MadameButterfly Oct 29 #104

Jeffries DID endorse Mamdani Wiz Imp Oct 29 #29

She did indeed vehemently creiticize him but MadameButterfly Oct 29 #106

correction MadameButterfly Oct 29 #32

I guess "2" is a number. Even lacking an endorsement, I guess we should all be thankful that no Democrat is... QueerDuck Oct 29 #34

Gov Hochul counts, doesn't she? Easterncedar Oct 29 #81

Kathy Hochul endorsed Mamdani back in September Quiet Em Oct 29 #82

Exactly Easterncedar Oct 29 #84

Jeffries endorsed last week SocialDemocrat61 Oct 29 #66

fair enough MadameButterfly Oct 29 #113

Did you listen to the show SocialDemocrat61 Oct 29 #126

We don't disagree as much as you seem to think. MadameButterfly Oct 30 #130

Actually I don't think we do too SocialDemocrat61 Oct 30 #131

Not a Democrat, a Socialist Democrat. Is this the new image of the party, for 2026? question everything Oct 29 #88

Correct. And... no. QueerDuck Oct 29 #95

It is withing the rules of the Democratic Party MadameButterfly Oct 29 #118

Mamdani is basically a New Deal Democrat SSJVegeta Oct 29 #5

No he's not. But, that matter aside... QueerDuck Oct 29 #9

What's the alternative? iemanja Oct 29 #15

That's for the voters to decide, isn't it? QueerDuck Oct 29 #20

Of course, they can always vote for Trump iemanja Oct 29 #22

Is Trump on the New York Mayoral ballot? question everything Oct 29 #89

Yes iemanja Oct 29 #93

and Trump prefers Cuomo MadameButterfly Oct 29 #120

It's important to distinguish between the primary and the general election. MadameButterfly Oct 29 #39

The "leave it blank" movement was a tool of voter suppression and an encouragement of apathy that lingered and carried... QueerDuck Oct 29 #49

The anger that carried over into the general was fueled MadameButterfly Oct 29 #63

I'm ignoring nothing. I'm especially not ignoring those who promoted such idiocy and party treachery. QueerDuck Oct 29 #75

It was unrealistic to think they would do nothing MadameButterfly Oct 29 #108

New Deal/FDR Democrats are capitalists. Democrats are not neoliberals. betsuni Oct 29 #23

The New Deal can be seen as a beginning of Social Democracy. thought crime Oct 29 #117

No he's not. Mamdani wants to help all people SocialDemocrat61 Oct 29 #27

I think that is an oversimplification. thought crime Oct 29 #111

Maybe but it's still true SocialDemocrat61 Oct 29 #125

THE NYC election is in 6 days Danmel Oct 29 #8

I hope Mamdani wins. Democrats need new faces and ideas. Lonestarblue Oct 29 #10

There's some evidence he knew about the tattoo EdmondDantes_ Oct 29 #17

Platner's tattoo was 100% a Nazi symbol. Wiz Imp Oct 29 #31

What I heard was he was claiming the issue was more nuanced than posters understood MadameButterfly Oct 29 #48

Platner's tattoo photos are readily available on the internet. yardwork Oct 29 #42

Who are the democrats ganging up on Mamdani? SocialDemocrat61 Oct 29 #12

Nobody. It's an absurd claim. QueerDuck Oct 29 #16

It's part of a victim complex that exists on the far left. Something they share with the far right nycbos Oct 29 #38

O come on MadameButterfly Oct 29 #53

I think someone who doesn't call on Hamas... nycbos Oct 29 #65

Bingo. QueerDuck Oct 29 #96

People like this are incapable of self reflection or any kind of self accountability. nycbos Oct 29 #98

OK, we need to define who you are saying the far left is that is playing victim. MadameButterfly Oct 29 #110

I've been as clear and honest as I can be. QueerDuck Oct 29 #116

Good grief MadameButterfly Oct 29 #122

Sorry. I cannot help you any further. QueerDuck Oct 29 #123

i saw the interview you are referring to MadameButterfly Oct 29 #109

You know that's not true obamanut2012 Oct 29 #58

It's what they say (claim) about him while not endorcing, that's the "ganging up" krawhitham Oct 29 #79

THEM. Victim of evil conspiracies by THEM ganging up and rigging and so on. betsuni Oct 29 #18

The tattoo PLUS his statements about rape victims, Blacks, and LGBT Americans iemanja Oct 29 #13

This. A million times... THIS. QueerDuck Oct 29 #97

I'm guessing this is an apples and oranges comparison bucolic_frolic Oct 29 #21

RE: PLantner. There are some who argue that his ink was applied while he was in active duty and that getting a tattoo 3Hotdogs Oct 29 #24

My wife met Mr Mamdani IbogaProject Oct 29 #25

What's with the obsession of making Mamdani a victim ? JI7 Oct 29 #33

Both the far left and the far right have a victim complex. nycbos Oct 29 #36

Mamdani is not "far left" obamanut2012 Oct 29 #59

I can assure you that supporting the "leave it blank" movement was not "mainstream" or "establishment" or "centrist". QueerDuck Oct 29 #99

Right. We shouldn't parrot right wing propaganda. thought crime Oct 29 #124

It is a victim obsession. yardwork Oct 29 #43

He really doesn't JustAnotherGen Oct 29 #70

Exactly. And most of us support him. yardwork Oct 29 #77

No one's ganging up on him. nycbos Oct 29 #35

He is not a Democrat. He is a Democratic Socialist. question everything Oct 29 #90

Yes... defunding the police is not "mainstream" or "centrist" or "establishment" either. QueerDuck Oct 29 #100

Democratic Socialists DSA is not a political party. thought crime Oct 29 #121

NYC will always get more attention. Always. Jbraybarten Oct 29 #37

This OP is wrong on so many levels. yardwork Oct 29 #40

They initially treated Bernie Sanders the same way when he ran for President in 2016 ChicagoTeamster Oct 29 #47

He still didnt' win JustAnotherGen Oct 29 #71

I know he didn't win. I'm just pointing out the similarities to how they treated Bernie and Mamdani. ChicagoTeamster Oct 29 #78

And then Sanders became a millionaire and much more well known -- and proceeded to lose in 2020 even worse. W_HAMILTON Oct 29 #91

And that's how we got *rump questionseverything Oct 29 #102

No, it's actually how we got Biden and got rid of Trump, thank you very much. W_HAMILTON Oct 29 #107

"Became a millionaire...." Doremus Oct 29 #115

The right loves Bernie Sanders -- they just will never vote for him. W_HAMILTON Oct 29 #119

Sanders is not a Democrat. Seems that we are moving into creating a new face of the party question everything Oct 29 #92

a handful of Democrats, mostly NY pols, are playing politics in their own state bigtree Oct 29 #51

There is no need for a person with a nazi tattoo... returnee Oct 29 #56

The Deimocratic party hasn't chnnged much from it'sinception. Ping Tung Oct 29 #68

There's always JustAnotherGen Oct 29 #69

It's true there are high profile people against Mamdani - TBF Oct 29 #83

Once people see what it is like to have a $30 per hour min. wage, free childcare, free transportation & rent controls MichMan Oct 29 #127

Happy to report my daughter voted for him in Queens today - TBF Oct 29 #128

Conspiracy theories about cartoon villain Democrats are what makes people cynical. betsuni Oct 29 #85

Is he the one that called for intifada? JoseBalow Oct 29 #86

Used to.. question everything Oct 29 #87

Wow MorbidButterflyTat Oct 29 #101

Not speaking out as much against Graham Plantner? thought crime Oct 29 #112

No one is ganging up on anyone. Blasphemer Oct 29 #129

No one would have known that Plantner had that tattoo had that old video of him shirtless not surfaced MichMan Oct 30 #132