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Wounded Bear

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19. The US Army has a history of fighting a war with "political" generals...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 09:03 PM
Oct 30

In the Civil War, most of the regiments were formed in the states, a forerunner of sorts to our National Guard system, and most of the Colonels of those units were appointed by the Governors. As you can imagine, the quality of leadership was sketchy, to be sure.

To compound the problem, especially in the Army of the Potomac, political influences were rampant. Officers were in constant contact with Congressmembers and Cabinet members. Much of R E Lee's success can be attributed to the incompetence of the Union officers of that army. Lincoln worked for nearly 3 years to find a General capable of winning the war. In the end he had to pull Grant from the Western theater to actually find success of a kind. Grant had little or no relationship with any of the Washington politicians.

Another more recent example, of course, is in the USSR of the 1930's. Stalin purged almost all of the flag/line officers in the Soviet army, either cashiered or outright shot and replaced them with loyalists. He also placed KGB "advisors" in all units above regimental level. The Soviet army was nearly overrun completely by the NAZIs in their invasion in 1941. In that campaign, some meddling by Hitler helped save the Soviets from complete disaster.

Politics and ass kissing the boss is a poor prescription for winning wars.

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Their oath is to the US constitution and American people. NOT TRUMP. Irish_Dem Oct 30 #1
yeah, but jaymac Oct 30 #2
Trump demands... GiqueCee Oct 30 #3
He is a narcissistic psychopath. Very dangerous man. Irish_Dem Oct 30 #4
Hardly a man liberalgunwilltravel Oct 30 #6
Yes he is a man baby. Stuck in the toddler stage of development. Irish_Dem Oct 30 #16
Add a little bit... GiqueCee Oct 30 #7
Trump is a serious national security risk. Irish_Dem Oct 30 #12
The US Army has a history of fighting a war with "political" generals... Wounded Bear Oct 30 #19
Holy cow. Great post, very informative. Maru Kitteh Oct 30 #24
Been an amateur military historian for most of my life... Wounded Bear Oct 30 #25
This is the whole point of building a professional fighting force. Irish_Dem Friday #27
Republicans in Congress...if you're listening. yellow dahlia Oct 30 #22
But when the shit hits the fan liberalgunwilltravel Oct 30 #5
Indeed. See my post #19 above...nt Wounded Bear Oct 30 #20
that's ok, we need Generals too. sarchasm Oct 30 #8
at least 8 years late rampartd Oct 30 #13
They are promoting MAGA loyalists who will do their killing without hesitation IronLionZion Oct 30 #9
By quitting, they break their oath angryxyouth Oct 30 #10
Admiral Holseyretired before he would have been fired from his position. Prof. Toru Tanaka Oct 30 #11
That's true angryxyouth Oct 30 #17
When the choice is between violating your oath and resigning, it becomes a point of honor...nt Wounded Bear Oct 30 #26
We should form an organization & recruit people like Alvin to join. CaptainTruth Oct 30 #14
Miles Taylor is doing something similar with Defiance.org. yellow dahlia Oct 30 #23
Thanks! I'll check it out. CaptainTruth Friday #29
My belief is there is no such thing as TOO much organizing. yellow dahlia Friday #30
Trump wants to war using the largest military in history against the people of Venezuela and their form Botany Oct 30 #15
The Venezuelan military . . . AverageOldGuy Friday #28
Witness for the prosecution! At the ICC. Buddyzbuddy Oct 30 #18
Shitler and his Joseph Goebbels "advisor" Stephen Miller, don't want any Admirals or Generals red dog 1 Oct 30 #21
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