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AZJonnie

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9. Sure, I use Gemini Agentic via CLI everyday. But all I'm talking about is a collection of agents that effectively talk
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 04:45 AM
Oct 31

Your materials procurement agent. Your hiring agent. Your planning and scheduling agent. Your marketing agent. Your permit procurement agent. But the one agent to bind them all is the missing piece that keeps customers from having AI manage the bulk of the administrative type work of building a building, for example.

I think that when it comes to large scale investors, maybe it's as you say they aren't being explicitly told this capability is on the horizon at say, a large symposium, but I'd bet that's what they're promising the whales over $35 martinis at the swanky club: BIG stuff done largely autonomously by AI.

And I don't think there can be overall profitability for the industry without reaching that threshold. There will be 'profits' via certain types of accounting, sure. They were handed free freaking billions. So yeah, if you don't count that, maybe sometimes companies will take in more money than they spend in some given quarter. And market valuations will go up for awhile, so people will are getting 'returns' on their investment in that sense, on paper. But you think anyone is getting back the, say, $50M they laid out, via dividends, from AI companies any time soon?

My main point though was more political than technical. The only way there will be net profitability is by putting *many* millions out of their good paying jobs via massive scale AI deployment. And that's what they're shooting for. Even if I'm misjudging exactly what the public sales pitches are at the moment.

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I hope it replaces all of the investment bankers VMA131Marine Oct 31 #1
I have worked with various forms of AI since the 1980s. Metaphorical Oct 31 #2
I'm really not asserting that this is what will happen, but I believe machines capable of tasks on that scale AZJonnie Oct 31 #3
Yes, I agree that is the selling point being used. Hugin Oct 31 #5
Oh, I absolutely agree with that Metaphorical Oct 31 #21
My own cursory queries bear out the approximate 30% error rate. Hugin Oct 31 #4
Good points and good analysis. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #6
You could have chosen any number of similar pie in the sky examples and they'd all be dreams but not selling points. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #7
Sure, I use Gemini Agentic via CLI everyday. But all I'm talking about is a collection of agents that effectively talk AZJonnie Oct 31 #9
Remember that most agentic calls Metaphorical Oct 31 #22
Well yeah I don't have Gemini running locally like I do Ollama and a couple other models AZJonnie Oct 31 #23
Helpful Starbeach Oct 31 #8
Too long to read. I'll bookmark it. QueerDuck Oct 31 #10
And you'll end up with a 90k sqft ballroom LetsGetSmartAboutIt Oct 31 #11
Stupid Question About AI Bibbers Oct 31 #12
Some amateur answers... Hugin Oct 31 #14
+1 leftstreet Oct 31 #15
Thanks so much! Bibbers Nov 2 #31
What a pile of bullshit. hunter Oct 31 #13
The coding is useful...but the resto is just bullshit and will crash...the AI companies are Demsrule86 Oct 31 #16
Yeah. I probably didn't make clear enough that my point was more political than technical AZJonnie Oct 31 #17
I didn't mean to call you out...just interests me...I love computers and coding. Demsrule86 Nov 1 #30
I've seen too many articles on problems with AI coding including security risks that aren't caught to be highplainsdem Oct 31 #18
I probably should have made it more clear that my point was more political than technical AZJonnie Oct 31 #19
That's very interesting, but I think there is a flaw in that MineralMan Oct 31 #20
I really didn't mean it's definitely going to work and building a building was just a convenient illustration AZJonnie Oct 31 #25
All well and good, but the energy demand will kill us (financially and literally) . . . . hatrack Oct 31 #24
Yeah I certainly did not to have it come off sounding like it's all a 'good thing' ESPECIALLY not for the climate AZJonnie Oct 31 #27
Priceline refund works on AI Turbineguy Oct 31 #26
Fascinating discussion. Thank you all. cachukis Oct 31 #28
AI, as both a technology and a commodity, is in its infancy, but this thread makes some nice points Ilikepurple Oct 31 #29
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