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Prairie Gates

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68. You're absolutely right...it's unfair to have the discipline you work in

Sat Nov 29, 2025, 12:53 PM

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oversimplified, misrepresented, attacked, insulted, and degraded, especially by people who don't work in that field and quite frankly don't know what they're talking about.

You're quite right about that. I'll take that lesson. Thank you. Some others in this thread should do the same.

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Poll: In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday OP

Given the outrageous cost of the tuition I can see why they would think that. drray23 Friday #1

but community colleges in general have many more classes relevant to various 'trades', Jack Valentino Yesterday #88

There goes critical thinking skills, right out the window SheltieLover Friday #2

Exactly. They will know zero history, have zero writing and critical thinking skills,... hlthe2b Friday #5

They will be gullible milestogo Friday #14

Not to mention history & civics! SheltieLover Friday #15

Critical thinking concludes college is too expensive leftstreet Friday #8

You don't need a four year degree for any of that fujiyamasan Yesterday #22

Critical thinking is really a more advanced skill. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #32

Agree - best English teacher I had in my life womanofthehills Yesterday #90

4 year college should be free. SSJVegeta Friday #3

I have a MS PCB66 Yesterday #38

Yet they are statistically more likely to make better decisions and vote the right way SSJVegeta Yesterday #42

I don't know PCB66 Yesterday #71

Trust me Ive known a lot of really deluded highly educated people too SSJVegeta Yesterday #76

It's easier if you can get people to want being poorly educated. Turbineguy Friday #4

Anti-intellectualism is a cornerstone Happy Hoosier Yesterday #33

Yes, you can fool some of the people all of the time. thought crime Yesterday #81

Can he get us a discount?? The Madcap Friday #6

Ummmmm...... Lovie777 Friday #7

The leaders running the USA into the ground Progressive dog Friday #11

Oh, They Teach That ProfessorGAC Yesterday #29

I like to ask my economics colleagues if they have figured out tariffs yet Redleg Yesterday #51

Beauty! ProfessorGAC Yesterday #58

I was fortunate to have some good econ professors in grad school Redleg Yesterday #59

Good To Hear ProfessorGAC Yesterday #65

You want to improve your life and get somewhere, but it's survival-of-the-fittest up top bucolic_frolic Friday #9

I can relate to that DFW Yesterday #26

About time someone realized most 4-year degrees are worthless Lettuce Be Friday #10

Yes indeed and it is a rational conclusion given the current moniss Friday #12

I don't know what a college degree is worth in the age of AI newdeal2 Friday #13

$1.5 Million Johnny2X2X Yesterday #34

So far, AI can't really replace thinking. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #35

There is job loss already newdeal2 Yesterday #43

In the age of AI, a Math degree is Golden-$$. thought crime Yesterday #82

Congratulations, Higher Ed. You've priced yourself out of students! intheflow Friday #16

Prices are out of control... Happy Hoosier Yesterday #36

Decreased state and federal funds... róisín_dubh Yesterday #44

Yet, blue states don't seem to be any cheaper than red states n/t MichMan Yesterday #61

Yes. I did mention Federal funding as well. róisín_dubh Yesterday #87

That's 100% true in the state of Wisconsin. Greybnk48 Yesterday #62

Thank you! I used to work at a community college, and that was the case there. raccoon Yesterday #66

That means that people do not understand murielm99 Friday #17

seeing how many college-educated people are complete idiots Skittles Yesterday #23

C's get degrees. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #37

Unlike Lake Wobegon where everyone is above average MichMan Yesterday #89

We're about 20-30 years late on this one Sympthsical Friday #18

+1 leftstreet Friday #19

Yes, What Trump is doing is wrong but I have a hard time supporting JI7 Yesterday #25

And it's an important distinction Sympthsical Yesterday #28

I think you're wrong here.... Happy Hoosier Yesterday #39

Yup, especially the last part. róisín_dubh Yesterday #45

What's your disagreement specifically? Sympthsical Yesterday #46

People need to be realistic JI7 Friday #20

There's no free lunch here fujiyamasan Yesterday #21

Okay, there is no comparison mr715 Yesterday #56

I never would have gone to college forty years ago. Jacson6 Yesterday #24

Corporate and anti-intellectual propaganda marches on JCMach1 Yesterday #27

Yes. This thread alone includes enough content for a whole book on why this is true and how it happened. Iris Yesterday #70

100%, with no dissing of trades. JCMach1 Yesterday #75

I worked at what people call a trade school - often called technical colleges now Iris Yesterday #80

It doesn't help when the K-12 education is so lacking, that colleges have to offer remedial classes MichMan Yesterday #30

You know who does think it's worth it? Johnny2X2X Yesterday #31

Absolutely true, IMO Happy Hoosier Yesterday #40

Just disturbing to me the anti college rhetoric that has taken hold Johnny2X2X Yesterday #41

Agreed Prairie Gates Yesterday #48

THIS Iris Yesterday #54

What's hilarious is that the degrees now considered "useful" are the ones that were only recently invented Prairie Gates Yesterday #47

I think you've simplified what the business disciplines are Redleg Yesterday #52

You're absolutely right...it's unfair to have the discipline you work in Prairie Gates Yesterday #68

Well said Iris Yesterday #60

"I have a nephew who received a BA in Philosophy who works at a Total Wine and More store." Jedi Guy Yesterday #49

Everybody has an anecdote about some student with a French poetry degree Johnny2X2X Yesterday #50

It's not the degrees themselves that are useful, but the habits of mind that the holders of the degrees have developed Iris Yesterday #63

Well yeah. Johnny2X2X Yesterday #64

GenX got jobs with these degrees without internships and co-ops Iris Yesterday #69

Not this Gen Xer Johnny2X2X Yesterday #72

I think collleges are more intentional about internships and co/ops now Iris Yesterday #73

Agree Johnny2X2X Yesterday #74

I know this was starting to happen with teaching in the early 90s Iris Yesterday #79

There were no internships in my profession and Boomers JCMach1 Yesterday #77

My kids have college degrees and they aren't making much ALBliberal Yesterday #53

If we reduce everything to dollars mr715 Yesterday #55

If you take 2 years tuition and plunk it in Tech growth stocks bucolic_frolic Yesterday #57

Just making the argument for Free Public Colleges JCMach1 Yesterday #78

If a student wants to attend an out of state college charging $60k a year tuition, taxpayers should have to pay it ? MichMan Yesterday #84

As someone who has spent more than a little time in college classrooms... WarGamer Yesterday #67

A better poll question as AI and Data Science grow in importance: Is a Math degree worth the cost and effort? thought crime Yesterday #83

The Dumbing Down of America... BH liberal Yesterday #85

It is hard to digest when it causes so much debt and even without college debt, salaries are still not great for most themaguffin Yesterday #86