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karynnj

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25. Neither Hillary or Kamala won.

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 10:40 AM

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You can argue that Russia used Facebook and other social media to target misinformation to voters in swing states, but in terms of votes cast, Trump won swing states with Democrats in charge.

For Kamala, she lost Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona all with Democrats controlling the state government.

We should NOT be like Republicans claiming we won when we didn't. Not to mention, we still need to understand why he won in spite of a very nasty campaign and 34 felony convictions! It seems that in all elections since 2016, there has been enough unhappiness that being the party in power is a negative.

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Mr. Green Party Nader helped lead the path to where we are today. lostincalifornia Yesterday #1

Gore won Florida. rubbersole Yesterday #7

Gore won just like Hillary won and Kamala won Clouds Passing Yesterday #14

Neither Hillary or Kamala won. karynnj Yesterday #25

Show us where hand counted recounts proved that Hillary and Kamala lost... Chemical Bill 18 hrs ago #34

Are you saying the Democratic officials in those states cheated for Trump? karynnj 16 hrs ago #35

No. Chemical Bill 15 hrs ago #36

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With very few exceptions, everyone in this administration has a simple philosophy Bluetus 23 hrs ago #28

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What did Al Gore say? Clouds Passing Yesterday #15

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He may have just thrown darts at a list on the wall. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #23

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Go Al!!! littlemissmartypants Yesterday #22

Howard Nutlick needs all the heckling he can get. Ocelot II Yesterday #26

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Nutlick has mining interests in Greenland Blues Heron 23 hrs ago #29

still a paywall vapor2 11 hrs ago #37

Lutnick is an ass vapor2 11 hrs ago #38