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W_HAMILTON

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19. And the ones attacking good Democrats are usually those who are in a place of privilege and won't get hurt regardless.

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Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:46 PM

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"Bring on the revolution!" they exclaim, while the only revolution they have helped bring about is the fascist one that took out other good Democrats like Hillary, Kamala, etc. and it's now laying waste to our country.

PS - You think MAGA Republucans are on my side for defending Jeffries or are they on yours for wanting him ousted?

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Maybe its time to pass the mantle sboatcar Wednesday #1

Exactly why focusing just on age isn't a good strategy newdeal2 Wednesday #14

I have been skeptical of Jeffries from the start mr715 Wednesday #28

This message was self-deleted by its author helpisontheway Wednesday #109

He is such a weak minority leader! I miss Pelosi!! Nt helpisontheway Wednesday #111

Maybe it is time to pass the mantle to someone Who Is Strong. I want someone strong like Iron Man. Trueblue1968 Wednesday #121

Jeffries needs to hear from the nationwide Democratic rank-and-file voters---- like us! Jack Valentino Yesterday #148

Jeffries has publicly announced that he will vote against ICE funding--- not a small thing, Jack Valentino Yesterday #152

With friends like these.... JBTaurus83 Wednesday #2

WTF? leftstreet Wednesday #3

So those attacking Jeffries a few weeks ago for not wanting to cut ICE funding were full of shit. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #4

There are some JBTaurus83 Wednesday #7

And the ones attacking good Democrats are usually those who are in a place of privilege and won't get hurt regardless. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #19

"Attacking good Democrats" mr715 Wednesday #23

And there is never anyone good enough -- funny how that works. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #128

"These same people" mr715 Wednesday #129

The people who think Jeffries isn't good enough, Pelosi wasn't good enough... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #133

Not all of those unfortunately...were good enough Melon Yesterday #153

For anyone that thinks they weren't good enough, I don't want to hear a goddamn word about the hell we find ourselves in W_HAMILTON 18 hrs ago #179

Wow these purity tests. nt mr715 17 hrs ago #183

You think voting for the Democrat and the only person that could have stopped all this from happening is a purity test? W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #184

No, I think your insistence mr715 15 hrs ago #187

Except not marching in lockstep is what drove us off the cliff here. W_HAMILTON 7 hrs ago #194

I supported Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and Kamala. And my mind is open about Newsom. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #172

What a bizarro world. Jeffries is almost always in lockstep with the vast majority of Democratic reps. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #180

Yes, Pelosi was accused of personally preventing an impeachment vote because of devious personal reasons. betsuni Wednesday #143

I was a huge Pelosi supporter JBTaurus83 Yesterday #149

I forgot the constant hysteria that 10,000-year-old Pelosi was clinging to power, would never ever never retire betsuni Yesterday #161

I was a big Hillary and Kamala JBTaurus83 Wednesday #42

A woman was shot in the face mr715 Wednesday #44

I agree with you JBTaurus83 Wednesday #47

Oh I know, I'm just coming in hot. mr715 Wednesday #51

Heh, I doubt even a Xanax would work on me. OldBaldy1701E 21 hrs ago #167

And the problem is that to help them we have to hurt even more people. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #136

If you won't stand up for the lives of your fellow citizens iemanja Wednesday #138

Stand up for them before it gets to the point where standing up for them does nothing. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #140

Hitler succeeded because good people failed to act. iemanja Wednesday #144

Yeah, and those """good people""" failed to act when they let Trump seize power.... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #146

Your pique about the past is blinding you to the urgency of the present. No one here voted for trump. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #174

My pique for the past was once the urgency of the present. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #181

And everyone here votes for the Democrats. But for some reason you insist on acting Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #185

Sure could have fooled me, with how some incessantly criticize Democrats. W_HAMILTON 7 hrs ago #195

Or he's feeling pressure from the base EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #27

The base wouldn't want him to fight back? SergeStorms Wednesday #59

That's what I mean EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #67

Depends on which "base"... slightlv Wednesday #91

Given how we've seen this play out before, I can. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #130

Thoughts don't matter iemanja Wednesday #131

And if people had supported good Democrats instead of nitpicking them from office, we wouldn't have that problem. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #137

Nor as long as Democrats don't act iemanja Wednesday #139

Fuck that. A Democrat """not acting""" is still better than the best Republican. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #141

So you won't bother making a phone call? iemanja Wednesday #142

No, because I don't buy into the conspiracy that Democraric leadership fucking wants ICE ravaging our streets. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #145

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You sound like you should get out of your mother's basement and get a job. Scrivener7 Wednesday #9

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Dear Jury: this guys' name is "you sound vaccinated." His schtick is - I think, because it' sounds pretty meth addled - Scrivener7 Wednesday #11

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Pretty sure it's Library Girl Emile Wednesday #24

Ah! Of course. Such a pitiful creature. Scrivener7 Wednesday #25

She gone for now Emile Wednesday #29

That happened quickly. mr715 Wednesday #32

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LG you back so soon? Emile Wednesday #49

Three times a charm?! sheshe2 Wednesday #52

LOL , she is a Weirdo. Emile Wednesday #54

She sure took a sprint through this thread. 🤪 sheshe2 Wednesday #58

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Darn, I missed all the fun. Was our old friend lg on a tear again? niyad Wednesday #81

hmmm, I have seen that user name several other places on youtube. niyad Wednesday #83

Jesus. It's because "they're terrified of being labeled anti law enforcement." While a rogue militia Scrivener7 Wednesday #8

If he were to be elected Speaker, he'd control the agenda. mr715 Wednesday #20

I advise to have ZERO expectations if he becomes speaker. More foot dragging Bread and Circuses Wednesday #38

We can't get much without Trump... mr715 Wednesday #41

Why can't another Rep, (AOC, Crow, Frost. or?) challenge Jeffries' Ars Longa Wednesday #45

They can. mr715 Wednesday #48

And people lament that the party's approval rating is poor... RockRaven Wednesday #12

Oo! Oo! I know!! mr715 Wednesday #50

Wait-a-sec... mr715 Wednesday #16

While I'd much prefer they be more forceful I understand the hesitation EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #17

That's terrible. H2O Man Wednesday #18

Without strong leadership we are sunk. Nanjeanne Wednesday #26

Uh huh. mr715 Wednesday #30

He doesn't care. These are bench warmers , at best Bread and Circuses Wednesday #35

He could be a competent back bencher mr715 Wednesday #39

We've fallen through the Ice. No one to help us Bread and Circuses Wednesday #37

My guess is SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #31

That's exactly it. Quiet Em Wednesday #53

If you're a democratic rep SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #57

So let 'em! mr715 Wednesday #60

Most people in R+24 districts SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #61

Why broadcast it!? mr715 Wednesday #63

He probably already knows that a number of Democrats SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #71

100% Wrong mr715 Wednesday #73

He is letting Democrats vote how they want SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #74

No. mr715 Wednesday #75

If you want to see ICE held accountable SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #76

Yes, there is. mr715 Wednesday #84

No there isn't SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #87

We very much disagree. nt mr715 Wednesday #90

Yes we do SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #98

But I don't think you improve your chances of winning control of congress by not fighting such an important issue crimycarny Wednesday #106

Rather than read a room SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #112

We can disagree without disparaging either other, can't we? crimycarny Wednesday #114

I was implying nothing personal SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #116

Abolishing ICE versus not extra funding crimycarny Wednesday #118

Funding ICE is not the same as SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #147

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree crimycarny Yesterday #154

Either way it's irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #155

I don't think for those in Minnesota see a yes vote for the ICE funding as irrelevant crimycarny Yesterday #157

It's irrelevant because it will pass anyway SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #158

Certainly worked great in 2024 crimycarny Yesterday #159

Why not stick to the issue at hand SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #160

Then let us resign ourselves mr715 20 hrs ago #168

I'm not a member of Congress SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #169

Too bad they can't learn from the Repukes when they were out of power LearnedHand Wednesday #115

Yet democrats are leading in the polls SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #117

Talk about NOT meeting the moment. Bread and Circuses Wednesday #33

Not leading? Not following? Choose option C. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #34

Lets get real zen about our position on murder. mr715 Wednesday #43

Our masked racist militia needs better training LuvLoogie Wednesday #36

I know that we are all experts & understand politics & Congress more than him, but what if... themaguffin Wednesday #40

Whatever that larger strategy is, it's painfully clear it's not working. Scrivener7 Wednesday #89

Not every strategy is an action in the moment. Look, I would love for them to... themaguffin 22 hrs ago #165

I think all of us can look at the results of his continuous selection of the weakest possible response to a given Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #171

Again, they to do whatever is that they actually can do. I'm referring to more than words themaguffin 19 hrs ago #173

What does it hurt if we stand united for the obvious right and moral thing, even if we don't win? Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #175

I didn't say otherwise. That wasn't my point themaguffin 19 hrs ago #176

So how does this "whip" work? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #62

For some folks, performative outage is the entire show. tritsofme Wednesday #79

Here you go: Scrivener7 Wednesday #93

When impeachment rolls around... mr715 Wednesday #99

Gotta be some stupid bug Timewas Wednesday #64

I consider this a litmus test KT2000 Wednesday #65

It has been (at least) one public murder. mr715 Wednesday #68

Are there issues for which he will whip votes? hatrack Wednesday #66

On bills denouncing the horrors of socialism... nt mr715 Wednesday #69

Seriously. If this isn't important enough to him, I truly wonder what is. Scrivener7 Wednesday #94

Precisely. If you won't oppose this, why have an "Opposition"? hatrack Wednesday #97

"Presidents come presidents go. And through it all God is still on his throne" Autumn 21 hrs ago #166

WEAK Renew Deal Wednesday #70

This is why the country's political system is a failure fujiyamasan Wednesday #72

What??? Why???!! AllyCat Wednesday #77

HERE is a house leader. usonian Wednesday #78

I wonder if Nancy is going along with this, or if behind the scenes, Ars Longa Wednesday #86

Watch how she votes. But we know how she'll vote. mr715 Wednesday #92

I hope H.Jeffries is listening to Nancy behind the scenes.. Ars Longa Wednesday #104

When did it get to the point that it's acceptable BlueKota Wednesday #80

Great post. Scrivener7 Wednesday #96

Thank you! BlueKota Wednesday #124

Maybe European leaders learned from Neville Chamnerlain. usonian Wednesday #113

It's sad how many people in this country BlueKota Wednesday #125

It only "proves" to them their "rightness" of their cause, and the gullibility of others. usonian Wednesday #135

Well said, and I agree Bayard Wednesday #127

There it is.. Cirsium Wednesday #82

Is he daring any Democrats to vote for the DHS bill? patphil Wednesday #85

"They're terrified of being labeled anti-law enforcement," rather than doing the right thing Mr. Sparkle Wednesday #88

We will be a perpetual minority mr715 Wednesday #95

Well stated!!!!! Scubamatt Wednesday #123

This is not law enforcement. BarbD Wednesday #103

Come on down to Crazy Atacama's! Sympthsical Wednesday #100

"Defeat from the jaws of victory" nt mr715 Wednesday #102

We need a House leader who walks the walk. La Coliniere Wednesday #101

He is afraid to whip votes against the DHS funding bill because it would look like dems are anti-ICE. mysteryowl Wednesday #105

Any Democrat who isn't anti-ICE mr715 Wednesday #108

I hope he is primaried SheltieLover Wednesday #107

Primaries are good and healthy mr715 Wednesday #110

Even AOC and Mamdani discouraged primarying him. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #182

Primaries are good and healthy. mr715 15 hrs ago #186

DSA acolyte Chi Osse filed the paperwork, but then he got the memo from both AOC and Mamdani lapucelle 11 hrs ago #188

As for Jeffries, he says "Bring it on". lapucelle 11 hrs ago #189

This is the right posture, no? mr715 10 hrs ago #190

Ask AOC and Mamdani. They're the ones clearly against primarying Jeffries. lapucelle 10 hrs ago #191

They're wrong? nt mr715 10 hrs ago #192

nt? lapucelle 10 hrs ago #193

Defunding isn't just for ICE, it's for DHS as a whole Warpy Wednesday #119

From another source: littlemissmartypants Wednesday #120

Pathetic . . . Scubamatt Wednesday #122

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Oh heck, the headline doesn't get me worked up in a frothy hate at Democrats -- not sure why I should despise Jeffries. betsuni Wednesday #132

Trump has unleashed a Gestapo that is killing us iemanja Wednesday #134

Don't worry just let the rich leadership fix it JBTaurus83 Yesterday #150

Sorry, I'm Through with Him and All the Rest of the D Leadership The Roux Comes First Yesterday #151

Hakeem goes the Schumer playbook Sewa Yesterday #162

It's the job of elected officials.... returnee 23 hrs ago #163

Of course he won't. nt Autumn 22 hrs ago #164

Maybe because he wants to win the House gulliver 20 hrs ago #170

"Emotion first"!? iemanja 18 hrs ago #178

usonian has a thread of action items, including a phone # to call Jeffries and tell him to whip this damn thing. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #177