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malthaussen

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17. This is the problem...

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:20 PM

Jan 21

... the law and the training manual say one thing, but when the recruits are actually brought into the fold, they're taken aside and told how things are really done. And many senior agents joined before a lot of the legal restraints were put into place, and thus never were taught the rules in the first place.

The real and only rule is "We do whatever we can get away with," and the only way to stop it is to not let them get away with it.

-- Mal

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🚨HOLY CRAP. An ICE whistleblower just revealed a secret memo authorizing ICE officers to break into homes without a jud [View all] In It to Win It Jan 21 OP

When the chief executive has immunity the entire administration has immunity- he can pardon them. Blues Heron Jan 21 #1

This is huge - get thee to the greatest page malaise Jan 21 #2

Huge! yellow dahlia Jan 21 #3

At what point will a court do something? yellow dahlia Jan 21 #4

At what point will Republicans in Congress do something? Pinback Jan 21 #30

It truly should be a red line for the members of Congress. yellow dahlia Jan 21 #32

For whom? ICE? Congress? slightlv Jan 21 #41

It is of course a rhetorical question. Pinback Jan 21 #43

You're right, of course, Pinback. slightlv Jan 21 #48

My sense of justice has also been offended, for many years. Shipwack Jan 21 #51

Normally HUGE, BUT bluestarone Jan 21 #5

WTF?!? 2naSalit Jan 21 #6

No one is safe. poli-junkie Jan 21 #7

Sheesh - that sums it up. calimary Jan 22 #59

This must stop! SheltieLover Jan 21 #8

This behavior started a revolution 250 years ago The Blue Flower Jan 21 #9

I will refrain from saying what I think about that statement. OldBaldy1701E Jan 21 #11

Honest question... sop Jan 21 #16

No. n/t malthaussen Jan 21 #18

A massive stroke? Heart attack? Fall from heights? Moostache Jan 21 #44

I wish, but honestly, No. n/t slightlv Jan 21 #49

Not at this point. OldBaldy1701E Jan 22 #57

This should be the top story SamuelTheThird Jan 21 #10

It should be the ONLY story. But its not... Moostache Jan 21 #47

The media is repuglican. Bush made sure of that slightlv Jan 21 #50

I can pilfer your house for valuables, too. (You won't need them.) Duncan Grant Jan 21 #12

Too true, they're already costing people money by damaging their cars (windows, seatbelts, etc.) blue_jay Jan 22 #64

And the Roberts court knew that this would happen. They are behind this abomination. erronis Jan 21 #13

Kick dalton99a Jan 21 #14

Maybe it's different across the country... paleotn Jan 21 #15

First time I visited Appalachia in TN Farmer-Rick Jan 21 #20

That happened to me in Texas. Ilsa Jan 21 #31

That dude may have had a whiskey still out back. Pinback Jan 21 #33

Unless the goons were in local sheriff or highway patrol cars, my rural neighbors allegorical oracle Jan 21 #25

Which is exactly the scenario they are hoping for. progressoid Jan 21 #29

Unless they are murdered by legals. Ilsa Jan 21 #37

Then they become martyrs for the cause. progressoid Jan 21 #40

Trump would love to parade around with the dead bodies of a few ICE agents. hunter Jan 21 #39

This is the problem... malthaussen Jan 21 #17

If the public doesn't know, what's to stop a homeowner from justifiably shooting them? ChicagoTeamster Jan 21 #19

Even if the public does know. Susan Calvin Jan 21 #42

What policy? If you're home is being violently broken into by people who won't announce their office ChicagoTeamster Jan 22 #52

I'm not quite sure why you're yelling at me. Susan Calvin Jan 22 #53

I'm not yelling at you, I'm just pointing out that this happens and these ICE agents will get themselves shot ChicagoTeamster Jan 22 #55

Sigh..... Susan Calvin Jan 22 #63

Someone else will get killed.... SergeStorms Jan 21 #21

Todd Lyons wrote the memo. Impeach him! surfered Jan 21 #22

Don't ICE officers get paid more when they pick people up? Botany Jan 21 #23

A leaked memo shows ICE agents have been authorized by the Trump administration to illegally force entry into homes LetMyPeopleVote Jan 21 #24

True irony -- the memo's title is "Protecting the American People Against Invasion". allegorical oracle Jan 21 #28

I think I've heard them refer to this in videos online. Quanta Jan 21 #26

The Nixon White House would be proud of a good break-in bucolic_frolic Jan 21 #27

Cain't get a civil war for nothin'. Kid Berwyn Jan 21 #34

Smoking Gun James48 Jan 21 #35

Here is the actual document they use SalamanderSleeps Jan 21 #36

ICE says its officers are allowed to enter homes without a judicial warrant, 2025 memo shows LetMyPeopleVote Jan 21 #38

I'm not a lawyer but... Takket Jan 21 #45

K&R UTUSN Jan 21 #46

Kick orangecrush Jan 22 #54

the don't tread on me crowd is silent... oh wait, that's because it's don't tread on "me." themaguffin Jan 22 #56

Makes me wonder what other secret memos are floating around..... 70sEraVet Jan 22 #58

No shit - Stephen Miller has been staying up nights FakeNoose Jan 22 #61

And yet Jeffries does not plan to whip his Dem minority in the House to vote against ICE funding. You know, PatrickforB Jan 22 #60

So This Was The Authority DallasNE Jan 22 #62