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mr715

(2,892 posts)
60. So let 'em!
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:39 PM
21 hrs ago

Let them vote however they want to vote. But the Democratic LEADER should not be the one providing that permission structure.

Do you think people in R+24 districts have a favorable opinion of Rep. Jeffries? Do you think they need political cover from him?

The answer is no.

All this does is establish the fact that Democratic leadership tries at every opportunity to take multiple sides of an issue that has only one side.

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Maybe its time to pass the mantle sboatcar 22 hrs ago #1
Exactly why focusing just on age isn't a good strategy newdeal2 22 hrs ago #14
I have been skeptical of Jeffries from the start mr715 21 hrs ago #28
This message was self-deleted by its author helpisontheway 19 hrs ago #109
He is such a weak minority leader! I miss Pelosi!! Nt helpisontheway 19 hrs ago #111
Maybe it is time to pass the mantle to someone Who Is Strong. I want someone strong like Iron Man. Trueblue1968 18 hrs ago #121
Jeffries needs to hear from the nationwide Democratic rank-and-file voters---- like us! Jack Valentino 15 hrs ago #148
Jeffries has publicly announced that he will vote against ICE funding--- not a small thing, Jack Valentino 15 hrs ago #152
With friends like these.... JBTaurus83 22 hrs ago #2
WTF? leftstreet 22 hrs ago #3
So those attacking Jeffries a few weeks ago for not wanting to cut ICE funding were full of shit. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #4
There are some JBTaurus83 22 hrs ago #7
And the ones attacking good Democrats are usually those who are in a place of privilege and won't get hurt regardless. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #19
"Attacking good Democrats" mr715 22 hrs ago #23
And there is never anyone good enough -- funny how that works. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #128
"These same people" mr715 17 hrs ago #129
The people who think Jeffries isn't good enough, Pelosi wasn't good enough... W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #133
Not all of those unfortunately...were good enough Melon 15 hrs ago #153
For anyone that thinks they weren't good enough, I don't want to hear a goddamn word about the hell we find ourselves in W_HAMILTON 2 hrs ago #179
Wow these purity tests. nt mr715 1 hr ago #183
You think voting for the Democrat and the only person that could have stopped all this from happening is a purity test? W_HAMILTON 1 hr ago #184
I supported Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and Kamala. And my mind is open about Newsom. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #172
What a bizarro world. Jeffries is almost always in lockstep with the vast majority of Democratic reps. W_HAMILTON 2 hrs ago #180
Yes, Pelosi was accused of personally preventing an impeachment vote because of devious personal reasons. betsuni 16 hrs ago #143
I was a huge Pelosi supporter JBTaurus83 15 hrs ago #149
I forgot the constant hysteria that 10,000-year-old Pelosi was clinging to power, would never ever never retire betsuni 12 hrs ago #161
I was a big Hillary and Kamala JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #42
A woman was shot in the face mr715 21 hrs ago #44
I agree with you JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #47
Oh I know, I'm just coming in hot. mr715 21 hrs ago #51
Heh, I doubt even a Xanax would work on me. OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #167
And the problem is that to help them we have to hurt even more people. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #136
If you won't stand up for the lives of your fellow citizens iemanja 16 hrs ago #138
Stand up for them before it gets to the point where standing up for them does nothing. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #140
Hitler succeeded because good people failed to act. iemanja 16 hrs ago #144
Yeah, and those """good people""" failed to act when they let Trump seize power.... W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #146
Your pique about the past is blinding you to the urgency of the present. No one here voted for trump. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #174
My pique for the past was once the urgency of the present. W_HAMILTON 1 hr ago #181
And everyone here votes for the Democrats. But for some reason you insist on acting Scrivener7 53 min ago #185
Or he's feeling pressure from the base EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #27
The base wouldn't want him to fight back? SergeStorms 21 hrs ago #59
That's what I mean EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #67
Depends on which "base"... slightlv 19 hrs ago #91
Given how we've seen this play out before, I can. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #130
Thoughts don't matter iemanja 17 hrs ago #131
And if people had supported good Democrats instead of nitpicking them from office, we wouldn't have that problem. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #137
Nor as long as Democrats don't act iemanja 16 hrs ago #139
Fuck that. A Democrat """not acting""" is still better than the best Republican. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #141
So you won't bother making a phone call? iemanja 16 hrs ago #142
No, because I don't buy into the conspiracy that Democraric leadership fucking wants ICE ravaging our streets. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #145
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Pretty sure it's Library Girl Emile 22 hrs ago #24
Ah! Of course. Such a pitiful creature. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #25
She gone for now Emile 21 hrs ago #29
That happened quickly. mr715 21 hrs ago #32
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Darn, I missed all the fun. Was our old friend lg on a tear again? niyad 20 hrs ago #81
hmmm, I have seen that user name several other places on youtube. niyad 20 hrs ago #83
Jesus. It's because "they're terrified of being labeled anti law enforcement." While a rogue militia Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #8
If he were to be elected Speaker, he'd control the agenda. mr715 22 hrs ago #20
I advise to have ZERO expectations if he becomes speaker. More foot dragging Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #38
We can't get much without Trump... mr715 21 hrs ago #41
Why can't another Rep, (AOC, Crow, Frost. or?) challenge Jeffries' Ars Longa 21 hrs ago #45
They can. mr715 21 hrs ago #48
And people lament that the party's approval rating is poor... RockRaven 22 hrs ago #12
Oo! Oo! I know!! mr715 21 hrs ago #50
Wait-a-sec... mr715 22 hrs ago #16
While I'd much prefer they be more forceful I understand the hesitation EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #17
That's terrible. H2O Man 22 hrs ago #18
Without strong leadership we are sunk. Nanjeanne 22 hrs ago #26
Uh huh. mr715 21 hrs ago #30
He doesn't care. These are bench warmers , at best Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #35
He could be a competent back bencher mr715 21 hrs ago #39
We've fallen through the Ice. No one to help us Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #37
My guess is SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #31
That's exactly it. Quiet Em 21 hrs ago #53
If you're a democratic rep SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #57
So let 'em! mr715 21 hrs ago #60
Most people in R+24 districts SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #61
Why broadcast it!? mr715 20 hrs ago #63
He probably already knows that a number of Democrats SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #71
100% Wrong mr715 20 hrs ago #73
He is letting Democrats vote how they want SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #74
No. mr715 20 hrs ago #75
If you want to see ICE held accountable SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #76
Yes, there is. mr715 20 hrs ago #84
No there isn't SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #87
We very much disagree. nt mr715 19 hrs ago #90
Yes we do SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #98
But I don't think you improve your chances of winning control of congress by not fighting such an important issue crimycarny 19 hrs ago #106
Rather than read a room SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #112
We can disagree without disparaging either other, can't we? crimycarny 19 hrs ago #114
I was implying nothing personal SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #116
Abolishing ICE versus not extra funding crimycarny 18 hrs ago #118
Funding ICE is not the same as SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #147
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree crimycarny 15 hrs ago #154
Either way it's irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #155
I don't think for those in Minnesota see a yes vote for the ICE funding as irrelevant crimycarny 14 hrs ago #157
It's irrelevant because it will pass anyway SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #158
Certainly worked great in 2024 crimycarny 14 hrs ago #159
Why not stick to the issue at hand SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #160
Then let us resign ourselves mr715 4 hrs ago #168
I'm not a member of Congress SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #169
Too bad they can't learn from the Repukes when they were out of power LearnedHand 18 hrs ago #115
Yet democrats are leading in the polls SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #117
Talk about NOT meeting the moment. Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #33
Not leading? Not following? Choose option C. Maru Kitteh 21 hrs ago #34
Lets get real zen about our position on murder. mr715 21 hrs ago #43
Our masked racist militia needs better training LuvLoogie 21 hrs ago #36
I know that we are all experts & understand politics & Congress more than him, but what if... themaguffin 21 hrs ago #40
Whatever that larger strategy is, it's painfully clear it's not working. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #89
Not every strategy is an action in the moment. Look, I would love for them to... themaguffin 6 hrs ago #165
I think all of us can look at the results of his continuous selection of the weakest possible response to a given Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #171
Again, they to do whatever is that they actually can do. I'm referring to more than words themaguffin 3 hrs ago #173
What does it hurt if we stand united for the obvious right and moral thing, even if we don't win? Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #175
I didn't say otherwise. That wasn't my point themaguffin 3 hrs ago #176
So how does this "whip" work? MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #62
For some folks, performative outage is the entire show. tritsofme 20 hrs ago #79
Here you go: Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #93
When impeachment rolls around... mr715 19 hrs ago #99
Gotta be some stupid bug Timewas 20 hrs ago #64
I consider this a litmus test KT2000 20 hrs ago #65
It has been (at least) one public murder. mr715 20 hrs ago #68
Are there issues for which he will whip votes? hatrack 20 hrs ago #66
On bills denouncing the horrors of socialism... nt mr715 20 hrs ago #69
Seriously. If this isn't important enough to him, I truly wonder what is. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #94
Precisely. If you won't oppose this, why have an "Opposition"? hatrack 19 hrs ago #97
"Presidents come presidents go. And through it all God is still on his throne" Autumn 5 hrs ago #166
WEAK Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #70
This is why the country's political system is a failure fujiyamasan 20 hrs ago #72
What??? Why???!! AllyCat 20 hrs ago #77
HERE is a house leader. usonian 20 hrs ago #78
I wonder if Nancy is going along with this, or if behind the scenes, Ars Longa 20 hrs ago #86
Watch how she votes. But we know how she'll vote. mr715 19 hrs ago #92
I hope H.Jeffries is listening to Nancy behind the scenes.. Ars Longa 19 hrs ago #104
When did it get to the point that it's acceptable BlueKota 20 hrs ago #80
Great post. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #96
Thank you! BlueKota 18 hrs ago #124
Maybe European leaders learned from Neville Chamnerlain. usonian 19 hrs ago #113
It's sad how many people in this country BlueKota 18 hrs ago #125
It only "proves" to them their "rightness" of their cause, and the gullibility of others. usonian 17 hrs ago #135
Well said, and I agree Bayard 17 hrs ago #127
There it is.. Cirsium 20 hrs ago #82
Is he daring any Democrats to vote for the DHS bill? patphil 20 hrs ago #85
"They're terrified of being labeled anti-law enforcement," rather than doing the right thing Mr. Sparkle 19 hrs ago #88
We will be a perpetual minority mr715 19 hrs ago #95
Well stated!!!!! Scubamatt 18 hrs ago #123
This is not law enforcement. BarbD 19 hrs ago #103
Come on down to Crazy Atacama's! Sympthsical 19 hrs ago #100
"Defeat from the jaws of victory" nt mr715 19 hrs ago #102
We need a House leader who walks the walk. La Coliniere 19 hrs ago #101
He is afraid to whip votes against the DHS funding bill because it would look like dems are anti-ICE. mysteryowl 19 hrs ago #105
Any Democrat who isn't anti-ICE mr715 19 hrs ago #108
I hope he is primaried SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #107
Primaries are good and healthy mr715 19 hrs ago #110
Even AOC and Mamdani discouraged primarying him. W_HAMILTON 1 hr ago #182
Defunding isn't just for ICE, it's for DHS as a whole Warpy 18 hrs ago #119
From another source: littlemissmartypants 18 hrs ago #120
Pathetic . . . Scubamatt 18 hrs ago #122
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #126
Oh heck, the headline doesn't get me worked up in a frothy hate at Democrats -- not sure why I should despise Jeffries. betsuni 17 hrs ago #132
Trump has unleashed a Gestapo that is killing us iemanja 17 hrs ago #134
Don't worry just let the rich leadership fix it JBTaurus83 15 hrs ago #150
Sorry, I'm Through with Him and All the Rest of the D Leadership The Roux Comes First 15 hrs ago #151
Hakeem goes the Schumer playbook Sewa 10 hrs ago #162
It's the job of elected officials.... returnee 7 hrs ago #163
Of course he won't. nt Autumn 6 hrs ago #164
Maybe because he wants to win the House gulliver 4 hrs ago #170
"Emotion first"!? iemanja 3 hrs ago #178
usonian has a thread of action items, including a phone # to call Jeffries and tell him to whip this damn thing. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #177
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