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Jeffries Won't Whip Vote Against ICE Funding [View all] Celerity Jan 21 OP

Maybe its time to pass the mantle sboatcar Jan 21 #1

Exactly why focusing just on age isn't a good strategy newdeal2 Jan 21 #14

I have been skeptical of Jeffries from the start mr715 Jan 21 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author helpisontheway Jan 21 #109

He is such a weak minority leader! I miss Pelosi!! Nt helpisontheway Jan 21 #111

Maybe it is time to pass the mantle to someone Who Is Strong. I want someone strong like Iron Man. Trueblue1968 Jan 21 #121

Jeffries needs to hear from the nationwide Democratic rank-and-file voters---- like us! Jack Valentino Thursday #148

Jeffries has publicly announced that he will vote against ICE funding--- not a small thing, Jack Valentino Thursday #152

With friends like these.... JBTaurus83 Jan 21 #2

WTF? leftstreet Jan 21 #3

So those attacking Jeffries a few weeks ago for not wanting to cut ICE funding were full of shit. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #4

There are some JBTaurus83 Jan 21 #7

And the ones attacking good Democrats are usually those who are in a place of privilege and won't get hurt regardless. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #19

"Attacking good Democrats" mr715 Jan 21 #23

And there is never anyone good enough -- funny how that works. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #128

"These same people" mr715 Jan 21 #129

The people who think Jeffries isn't good enough, Pelosi wasn't good enough... W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #133

Not all of those unfortunately...were good enough Melon Thursday #153

For anyone that thinks they weren't good enough, I don't want to hear a goddamn word about the hell we find ourselves in W_HAMILTON Thursday #179

Wow these purity tests. nt mr715 Thursday #183

You think voting for the Democrat and the only person that could have stopped all this from happening is a purity test? W_HAMILTON Thursday #184

No, I think your insistence mr715 Thursday #187

Except not marching in lockstep is what drove us off the cliff here. W_HAMILTON Friday #194

Do you think I didn't vote for Kamala Harris? nt mr715 Friday #197

Do you think your criticisms are in a vacuum? W_HAMILTON Friday #199

I supported Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and Kamala. And my mind is open about Newsom. Scrivener7 Thursday #172

What a bizarro world. Jeffries is almost always in lockstep with the vast majority of Democratic reps. W_HAMILTON Thursday #180

Yes, Pelosi was accused of personally preventing an impeachment vote because of devious personal reasons. betsuni Jan 21 #143

I was a huge Pelosi supporter JBTaurus83 Thursday #149

I forgot the constant hysteria that 10,000-year-old Pelosi was clinging to power, would never ever never retire betsuni Thursday #161

I was a big Hillary and Kamala JBTaurus83 Jan 21 #42

A woman was shot in the face mr715 Jan 21 #44

I agree with you JBTaurus83 Jan 21 #47

Oh I know, I'm just coming in hot. mr715 Jan 21 #51

Heh, I doubt even a Xanax would work on me. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #167

And the problem is that to help them we have to hurt even more people. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #136

If you won't stand up for the lives of your fellow citizens iemanja Jan 21 #138

Stand up for them before it gets to the point where standing up for them does nothing. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #140

Hitler succeeded because good people failed to act. iemanja Jan 21 #144

Yeah, and those """good people""" failed to act when they let Trump seize power.... W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #146

Your pique about the past is blinding you to the urgency of the present. No one here voted for trump. Scrivener7 Thursday #174

My pique for the past was once the urgency of the present. W_HAMILTON Thursday #181

And everyone here votes for the Democrats. But for some reason you insist on acting Scrivener7 Thursday #185

Sure could have fooled me, with how some incessantly criticize Democrats. W_HAMILTON Friday #195

Oh, FFS. So your issue is that you feel people didn't pay enough attention to you in the past, and Scrivener7 Friday #196

The issue is that people didn't heed the warnings from myself and others. W_HAMILTON Friday #198

Blaming Democrats again, I see. Scrivener7 Friday #200

Or he's feeling pressure from the base EdmondDantes_ Jan 21 #27

The base wouldn't want him to fight back? SergeStorms Jan 21 #59

That's what I mean EdmondDantes_ Jan 21 #67

Depends on which "base"... slightlv Jan 21 #91

Given how we've seen this play out before, I can. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #130

Thoughts don't matter iemanja Jan 21 #131

And if people had supported good Democrats instead of nitpicking them from office, we wouldn't have that problem. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #137

Nor as long as Democrats don't act iemanja Jan 21 #139

Fuck that. A Democrat """not acting""" is still better than the best Republican. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #141

So you won't bother making a phone call? iemanja Jan 21 #142

No, because I don't buy into the conspiracy that Democraric leadership fucking wants ICE ravaging our streets. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #145

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Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay............... Celerity Jan 21 #6

You sound like you should get out of your mother's basement and get a job. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #9

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Dear Jury: this guys' name is "you sound vaccinated." His schtick is - I think, because it' sounds pretty meth addled - Scrivener7 Jan 21 #11

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DU has support forums leftstreet Jan 21 #15

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This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jan 21 #22

Pretty sure it's Library Girl Emile Jan 21 #24

Ah! Of course. Such a pitiful creature. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #25

She gone for now Emile Jan 21 #29

That happened quickly. mr715 Jan 21 #32

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LG you back so soon? Emile Jan 21 #49

Three times a charm?! sheshe2 Jan 21 #52

LOL , she is a Weirdo. Emile Jan 21 #54

She sure took a sprint through this thread. 🤪 sheshe2 Jan 21 #58

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Darn, I missed all the fun. Was our old friend lg on a tear again? niyad Jan 21 #81

hmmm, I have seen that user name several other places on youtube. niyad Jan 21 #83

Jesus. It's because "they're terrified of being labeled anti law enforcement." While a rogue militia Scrivener7 Jan 21 #8

If he were to be elected Speaker, he'd control the agenda. mr715 Jan 21 #20

I advise to have ZERO expectations if he becomes speaker. More foot dragging Bread and Circuses Jan 21 #38

We can't get much without Trump... mr715 Jan 21 #41

Why can't another Rep, (AOC, Crow, Frost. or?) challenge Jeffries' Ars Longa Jan 21 #45

They can. mr715 Jan 21 #48

And people lament that the party's approval rating is poor... RockRaven Jan 21 #12

Oo! Oo! I know!! mr715 Jan 21 #50

Wait-a-sec... mr715 Jan 21 #16

While I'd much prefer they be more forceful I understand the hesitation EdmondDantes_ Jan 21 #17

That's terrible. H2O Man Jan 21 #18

Without strong leadership we are sunk. Nanjeanne Jan 21 #26

Uh huh. mr715 Jan 21 #30

He doesn't care. These are bench warmers , at best Bread and Circuses Jan 21 #35

He could be a competent back bencher mr715 Jan 21 #39

We've fallen through the Ice. No one to help us Bread and Circuses Jan 21 #37

My guess is SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #31

That's exactly it. Quiet Em Jan 21 #53

If you're a democratic rep SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #57

So let 'em! mr715 Jan 21 #60

Most people in R+24 districts SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #61

Why broadcast it!? mr715 Jan 21 #63

He probably already knows that a number of Democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #71

100% Wrong mr715 Jan 21 #73

He is letting Democrats vote how they want SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #74

No. mr715 Jan 21 #75

If you want to see ICE held accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #76

Yes, there is. mr715 Jan 21 #84

No there isn't SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #87

We very much disagree. nt mr715 Jan 21 #90

Yes we do SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #98

But I don't think you improve your chances of winning control of congress by not fighting such an important issue crimycarny Jan 21 #106

Rather than read a room SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #112

We can disagree without disparaging either other, can't we? crimycarny Jan 21 #114

I was implying nothing personal SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #116

Abolishing ICE versus not extra funding crimycarny Jan 21 #118

Funding ICE is not the same as SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #147

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree crimycarny Thursday #154

Either way it's irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #155

I don't think for those in Minnesota see a yes vote for the ICE funding as irrelevant crimycarny Thursday #157

It's irrelevant because it will pass anyway SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #158

Certainly worked great in 2024 crimycarny Thursday #159

Why not stick to the issue at hand SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #160

Then let us resign ourselves mr715 Thursday #168

I'm not a member of Congress SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #169

Too bad they can't learn from the Repukes when they were out of power LearnedHand Jan 21 #115

Yet democrats are leading in the polls SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #117

Talk about NOT meeting the moment. Bread and Circuses Jan 21 #33

Not leading? Not following? Choose option C. Maru Kitteh Jan 21 #34

Lets get real zen about our position on murder. mr715 Jan 21 #43

Our masked racist militia needs better training LuvLoogie Jan 21 #36

I know that we are all experts & understand politics & Congress more than him, but what if... themaguffin Jan 21 #40

Whatever that larger strategy is, it's painfully clear it's not working. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #89

Not every strategy is an action in the moment. Look, I would love for them to... themaguffin Thursday #165

I think all of us can look at the results of his continuous selection of the weakest possible response to a given Scrivener7 Thursday #171

Again, they to do whatever is that they actually can do. I'm referring to more than words themaguffin Thursday #173

What does it hurt if we stand united for the obvious right and moral thing, even if we don't win? Scrivener7 Thursday #175

I didn't say otherwise. That wasn't my point themaguffin Thursday #176

So how does this "whip" work? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 21 #62

For some folks, performative outage is the entire show. tritsofme Jan 21 #79

Here you go: Scrivener7 Jan 21 #93

When impeachment rolls around... mr715 Jan 21 #99

Gotta be some stupid bug Timewas Jan 21 #64

I consider this a litmus test KT2000 Jan 21 #65

It has been (at least) one public murder. mr715 Jan 21 #68

Are there issues for which he will whip votes? hatrack Jan 21 #66

On bills denouncing the horrors of socialism... nt mr715 Jan 21 #69

Seriously. If this isn't important enough to him, I truly wonder what is. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #94

Precisely. If you won't oppose this, why have an "Opposition"? hatrack Jan 21 #97

"Presidents come presidents go. And through it all God is still on his throne" Autumn Thursday #166

WEAK Renew Deal Jan 21 #70

This is why the country's political system is a failure fujiyamasan Jan 21 #72

What??? Why???!! AllyCat Jan 21 #77

HERE is a house leader. usonian Jan 21 #78

I wonder if Nancy is going along with this, or if behind the scenes, Ars Longa Jan 21 #86

Watch how she votes. But we know how she'll vote. mr715 Jan 21 #92

I hope H.Jeffries is listening to Nancy behind the scenes.. Ars Longa Jan 21 #104

When did it get to the point that it's acceptable BlueKota Jan 21 #80

Great post. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #96

Thank you! BlueKota Jan 21 #124

Maybe European leaders learned from Neville Chamnerlain. usonian Jan 21 #113

It's sad how many people in this country BlueKota Jan 21 #125

It only "proves" to them their "rightness" of their cause, and the gullibility of others. usonian Jan 21 #135

Well said, and I agree Bayard Jan 21 #127

There it is.. Cirsium Jan 21 #82

Is he daring any Democrats to vote for the DHS bill? patphil Jan 21 #85

"They're terrified of being labeled anti-law enforcement," rather than doing the right thing Mr. Sparkle Jan 21 #88

We will be a perpetual minority mr715 Jan 21 #95

Well stated!!!!! Scubamatt Jan 21 #123

This is not law enforcement. BarbD Jan 21 #103

Come on down to Crazy Atacama's! Sympthsical Jan 21 #100

"Defeat from the jaws of victory" nt mr715 Jan 21 #102

We need a House leader who walks the walk. La Coliniere Jan 21 #101

He is afraid to whip votes against the DHS funding bill because it would look like dems are anti-ICE. mysteryowl Jan 21 #105

Any Democrat who isn't anti-ICE mr715 Jan 21 #108

I hope he is primaried SheltieLover Jan 21 #107

Primaries are good and healthy mr715 Jan 21 #110

Even AOC and Mamdani discouraged primarying him. W_HAMILTON Thursday #182

Primaries are good and healthy. mr715 Thursday #186

DSA acolyte Chi Osse filed the paperwork, but then he got the memo from both AOC and Mamdani lapucelle Thursday #188

As for Jeffries, he says "Bring it on". lapucelle Thursday #189

This is the right posture, no? mr715 Thursday #190

Ask AOC and Mamdani. They're the ones clearly against primarying Jeffries. lapucelle Thursday #191

They're wrong? nt mr715 Thursday #192

nt? lapucelle Thursday #193

Defunding isn't just for ICE, it's for DHS as a whole Warpy Jan 21 #119

From another source: littlemissmartypants Jan 21 #120

Pathetic . . . Scubamatt Jan 21 #122

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Oh heck, the headline doesn't get me worked up in a frothy hate at Democrats -- not sure why I should despise Jeffries. betsuni Jan 21 #132

Trump has unleashed a Gestapo that is killing us iemanja Jan 21 #134

Don't worry just let the rich leadership fix it JBTaurus83 Thursday #150

Sorry, I'm Through with Him and All the Rest of the D Leadership The Roux Comes First Thursday #151

Hakeem goes the Schumer playbook Sewa Thursday #162

It's the job of elected officials.... returnee Thursday #163

Of course he won't. nt Autumn Thursday #164

Maybe because he wants to win the House gulliver Thursday #170

"Emotion first"!? iemanja Thursday #178

usonian has a thread of action items, including a phone # to call Jeffries and tell him to whip this damn thing. Scrivener7 Thursday #177

If that's the case Jilly_in_VA Friday #201