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54. brilliant. Notice how this writer is talking to Democrats like they're a stranger to the party?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:26 AM
Jan 22

Oh, no, on edit I see that it's that troll fuck Norman Solomon who was just attacking Joe Biden last April, writing:

"Demo­crats’ defer­ence to Biden was a dis­aster. They still haven’t learned their les­son"

Thing is, this troll writer, nor any of us actually vote for who is leader of the respective Democratic memberships - the members do.

Any gripe they have with the leaders THEY chose needs to be addressed to THEM because, these two evidently represent THEIR collective views and intentions in their respective houses.

What a farce pretending critics have a say in who the Dem leaders are. Moreover, I'll bet they don't even know who to call to urge them to organize such a farce.

Or, more importantly, WHO is stepping up to take up that traditionally scapegoated role?

This pretense that there's some internecine fight, or even more misleading, that the members who've ALREADY fought republicans and WON to be where they are would do something as stupid as dismantle their own leadership like several hounded Biden into doing, for instance, in the last election.

That ratfucking worked out just dandy, right?

Why does anyone in the party still listen to these people who can only think of tearing something down; oblivious to the need right now to build the the party and gain the majority.

Addition, not subtraction.

I mean, blaming the two for some fault in the party, two successful leaders (when people bother to vote them in a majority) who are decidedly more progressive than their collective membership, is just avoidance of the realities they both face in organizing a toothless minority that these very same critics evidently didn't bother to support the last time around.

What the two produce is what their caucus will support. They're not dictators, and no one should expect the Democrat they send there to be dictated down to by anyone. It's absurd, and a canard.

Support Democrats and win the majority. It's not as hard as trolls like this Salon writer pretend. Does anyone notice that the polls greatly favor Democrats, so what the fuck is this person talking about? We've been winning almost every race that emerges, and the polls for republicans are wildly swinging the opposite way from their last contests.

The shit that people allow themselves to get gaslighted by is really something.

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Chuck Chuck and Careen Hakeem? dem4decades Jan 20 #1
Moving faster is certainly in order and with 2026 upon us already, same old same old not helpful. dutch777 Jan 20 #2
Dem House and Senate leadership operate like they have Ars Longa Jan 20 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Ars Longa Jan 20 #15
In before the swarm. Scrivener7 Jan 20 #3
Me too Bettie Jan 21 #24
Don't worry, they won't BeyondGeography Jan 20 #4
"No," said Gallego. "And I've been very clear. He is a madman. He is insane. He's only thinking about himself." ratchiweenie Jan 20 #5
To put it mildly, they are not the right leaders for the moment. n/t demmiblue Jan 20 #6
Disagree JustAnotherGen Jan 20 #7
It doesn't put the blame on the Democrats. It puts the hope for a solution on Democrats. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #23
What we need is to stop fighting ourselves oiut loud. bluestarone Jan 20 #8
I don't think we are fighting ourselves out loud so much as leadership is fighting us. Autumn Jan 20 #21
No, they aren't creeksneakers2 Jan 21 #37
Yeah they are. Your opinion and view is vastly different than what I see. Have a nice day. Autumn Jan 22 #58
But you can't refute what I said. creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #60
I have no reason to refute anything you said. You offered no facts, just your own personal opinion. Autumn Jan 22 #61
The point of a discussion board is to discuss. creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #62
Then discuss it with someone else. I have my opinion and you will not change it. Autumn Jan 22 #64
As long as you post false information creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #66
Go on and waste your time. Nothing I posted was false and I stand by it. Autumn Jan 22 #67
This was false creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #68
It's an opinion that you don't like, that doesn't make it false. Autumn Jan 22 #69
Its false to say they aren't. creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #70
Many of us DO have the same opinion. hamsterjill Jan 22 #83
Yes. I have been going hmmmmmm for some time now. Always the same Autumn Jan 23 #84
"It is easier to find people fit to govern themselves than people fit to govern others". Lord Acton Ping Tung Jan 20 #9
Meh. We need leaders who are studious and prayerful and who prefer to make speeches to an empty chamber dalton99a Jan 20 #10
Scary thought that must be weighed. Kid Berwyn Jan 20 #11
I guess at least he's moved on from saying the problem is Democratic women aren't hot EdmondDantes_ Jan 20 #12
Chuck's had 10 years to prove his theory. FAIL leftstreet Jan 20 #13
"But We Will Win Because Victory Will Come To Us In Due Time" dalton99a Jan 20 #16
To put it bluntly... hamsterjill Jan 20 #17
What specifically do you want them to do? creeksneakers2 Jan 21 #38
Pick an issue mr715 Jan 21 #46
Being done. creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #49
Why are you asking me? hamsterjill Jan 21 #47
The question is designed to show the flaw in reasoning. creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #50
That's absurd. hamsterjill Jan 22 #57
Bogus excuse creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #59
No, I'm not helping fascists. hamsterjill Jan 22 #72
Hamsterjill mr715 Jan 22 #74
Thank you for the very kind words. hamsterjill Jan 22 #75
I'm in Florida. mr715 Jan 22 #76
Look it up creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #81
You can turn lead into gold. mr715 Jan 22 #73
Attack Republicans creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #79
Yeah, attack away mr715 Jan 22 #80
It spreads. creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #82
Either cajones or ovarian fortitude would be fine with me. Raven123 Jan 22 #78
Bernie usonian Jan 20 #18
I don't know why people here mock strongly worded letters. Politicians communicate this way. Thanks, Bernie! betsuni Jan 20 #20
And we need him to fight as much before the election as he seems to after it! W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #36
Behold: betsuni Jan 21 #43
I amend my comment: "we need him to fight REPUBLICANS as much before the election.." W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #44
Post removed Post removed Jan 22 #55
More anti-Democratic Boo1 Jan 20 #19
Democratic Party leaders seem to be keeping their powder dry. Autumn Jan 20 #22
They've been keeping it dry and hoarding it Bettie Jan 21 #25
We, the voters, gave them no powder to keep dry. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #33
yup, Salon, Democracy Now, Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, etc.all worked overtime to bring us where we are today. lostincalifornia Jan 21 #26
Yeah, it's all their fault Mysterian Jan 21 #40
In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received lostincalifornia Jan 21 #41
Too bad the Democratic party could not do better than that Mysterian Jan 23 #85
Amen comradebillyboy Jan 21 #27
Establishment Democratic leadership LuvLoogie Jan 21 #28
Nope creeksneakers2 Jan 21 #39
Agree, 100%. New Democratic leadership is needed, immediately. Paladin Jan 21 #29
That's not going to happen, so now what? themaguffin Jan 21 #30
Except we've been winning. W_HAMILTON Jan 21 #31
Yes, we're winning. The author can't be bothered with facts or polling on the midterms. emulatorloo Jan 21 #34
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Jan 22 #51
You really think the average voter gives a shit about Schumer and Jeffries or even know's their names? emulatorloo Jan 21 #32
Most voters don't watch news all day SocialDemocrat61 Jan 21 #45
Did Normal Solomon ever write an autopsy on his failed congressional campaign in a solid blue district? Quiet Em Jan 21 #35
That is because Ocasio-Cortez and Crocker don't go attacking Democrats and lostincalifornia Jan 21 #42
I am also curious about this LetMyPeopleVote Jan 22 #52
Oh, did I miss the wailing and rending of garments? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 21 #48
Strongly worded headlines rile up the pseudo-revolutionaries fighting alongside radical right-wingers against Democrats, betsuni Jan 22 #56
I'd rather we Chuck people like Norman Solomon. johnp3907 Jan 22 #53
brilliant. Notice how this writer is talking to Democrats like they're a stranger to the party? bigtree Jan 22 #54
They are far too timid. iemanja Jan 22 #63
THANK YOU Skittles Jan 22 #65
This place is obsessed with "leadership" and Congress JI7 Jan 22 #71
We're already winning! Haven't we won just about every special election? Wanderlust988 Jan 22 #77
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