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angrychair

(11,852 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 09:53 PM Thursday

This Funding Bill is Pointless [View all]

I think it's important to clear up some confusion that the propaganda weasels in the new media are ignoring. The current fight over DHS funding is theater to make everyone feel better and feel like Congress is doing something.

Even if they don't come to any agreement, hell even if they refused to fund them for the next two years, it would not impact their ability to operate.


They are fully funded through 2029 because of the Big Bullshit Bill.

They need to abolish ICE. That's it. That is the only way you fix this. Abolish ICE and fire everyone.

Unless that is on the table they all can all fuck fight off. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

That you can watch them attacking people, murdering people in cold blood and go "let's just give them the same engagement rules as regular police" like that fucking matters. Police have been out here harassing, beating, torturing, murdering and raping people since the beginning, especially Black and brown folk, and when one is actually held accountable, it's so rare that it makes not just national but international news. That image of that ICE agent standing over Alex Pretti with his gun to his head and knowing THEY SHOT HIM TEN TIMES IN THE BACK AND IN HIS HEAD, in broad daylight, in front of people filming, tells me they have been told they are untouchable. Also, the shooters were not new recruits but both have been with ICE for several years.

The type of solutions they are offering are not worth the paper they are written on.

ABOLISH ICE.

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This Funding Bill is Pointless [View all] angrychair Thursday OP
All true and he will move money from other programs anyway. chicoescuela Thursday #1
ABOLISH ICE is now the moderate position leftstreet Thursday #2
Not just I.C.E! Homeland Security needs to end. DJ Synikus Makisimus Thursday #3
"DHS funding is theater to make everyone feel better and feel like Congress is doing something." J_William_Ryan Thursday #4
The Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act needs to be repealed Blue Full Moon Thursday #5
"Abolish ICE" - Yet another BS slogan.... reACTIONary Thursday #6
Fuck axeleod angrychair Thursday #8
Exactly mvd Thursday #16
Do you think that immigration enforcement is unnecessary? And... reACTIONary Friday #24
It doesn't matter when ICE was established.... reACTIONary Thursday #17
I agree with you Pototan Thursday #9
There is a difference angrychair Thursday #13
A majority of Americans also support... reACTIONary Friday #18
Surveys support the position angrychair Friday #20
Surveys also support immigration enforcement... reACTIONary Friday #26
Pre-patriot act, ice was part of the immigration and naturalization service and domestic terrorism the FBI's bailiwick. pat_k Friday #27
Since you're so interested in language choie Friday #29
Maybe Unlawful Immigrants? "Undocumented" is... reACTIONary 5 hrs ago #35
How about "scum sucking bottom feeder employers" choie 1 hr ago #37
do or die quakerboy Thursday #11
In my humble opinion... reACTIONary Friday #23
in my humble opinion quakerboy Yesterday #30
Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but since you brought it up again... reACTIONary Yesterday #32
That is the norm. quakerboy 15 hrs ago #33
This sort of organization? reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #34
ICE is the latter quakerboy 3 hrs ago #36
Thank God we have posters like you choie 1 hr ago #38
Sadly agree. I also put "Medicare for All" in that category, much as I appreciate Bernie generally AZJonnie Friday #22
I agree with you to a point. But you can't just abolish ICE. They do have a legitimate job that has to be done. flashman13 Thursday #7
Ice has only existed since 2003 angrychair Thursday #10
ICE in some form or other has existed as long as we have had borders. Some organization must control the border. flashman13 Thursday #15
And CBP did that job angrychair Friday #19
At this point I don't see an iota of difference between ICE and CPB. flashman13 Friday #25
We had the INS to do that job. ICE, as they are today, serve no AllyCat Friday #21
ice is not legitimate quakerboy Yesterday #31
I AGREE with you, but the Democrats will have no power to abolish ICE Jack Valentino Thursday #12
They should at least try angrychair Thursday #14
I was about to give you a REC because you were on the same path as me -- and then you veered sharply off. W_HAMILTON Friday #28
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