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flashman13

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7. I agree with you to a point. But you can't just abolish ICE. They do have a legitimate job that has to be done.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 11:27 PM
Thursday

What they are currently doing isn't it. So reform it. That's what must be done, but it's not something that can be done on the fly in the middle of another funding crisis.

Here is what can be done. Make some sensible demands and shut the entire government down until those demands are met. Trump wants to govern by extortion. Democrats can play that game.

What demands?

Obviously not a another dime for ICE and DHS as a whole.

Withdraw ICE etc. from every occupied city and state immediately.

Immediately terminate all ICE agents that have been hired since The Big Steaming Pile Bill was passed.

A joint investigation of the Good and Pretti murders by Minnesota officials and a Special Senate Investigation Committee with the best legal minds available. It should be similar to the J6 Committee.

The resignation of Noem, Bondi, Homan, Patel, and Miller.

And a three year extension of all ACA programs and benefits.

Feel free to add more.

That's a meaningful effort I can stand behind.





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This Funding Bill is Pointless [View all] angrychair Thursday OP
All true and he will move money from other programs anyway. chicoescuela Thursday #1
ABOLISH ICE is now the moderate position leftstreet Thursday #2
Not just I.C.E! Homeland Security needs to end. DJ Synikus Makisimus Thursday #3
"DHS funding is theater to make everyone feel better and feel like Congress is doing something." J_William_Ryan Thursday #4
The Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act needs to be repealed Blue Full Moon Thursday #5
"Abolish ICE" - Yet another BS slogan.... reACTIONary Thursday #6
Fuck axeleod angrychair Thursday #8
Exactly mvd Thursday #16
Do you think that immigration enforcement is unnecessary? And... reACTIONary Friday #24
It doesn't matter when ICE was established.... reACTIONary Thursday #17
I agree with you Pototan Thursday #9
There is a difference angrychair Thursday #13
A majority of Americans also support... reACTIONary Friday #18
Surveys support the position angrychair Friday #20
Surveys also support immigration enforcement... reACTIONary Friday #26
Pre-patriot act, ice was part of the immigration and naturalization service and domestic terrorism the FBI's bailiwick. pat_k Friday #27
Since you're so interested in language choie Friday #29
Maybe Unlawful Immigrants? "Undocumented" is... reACTIONary 19 hrs ago #35
How about "scum sucking bottom feeder employers" choie 14 hrs ago #37
do or die quakerboy Thursday #11
In my humble opinion... reACTIONary Friday #23
in my humble opinion quakerboy Saturday #30
Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but since you brought it up again... reACTIONary Saturday #32
That is the norm. quakerboy Yesterday #33
This sort of organization? reACTIONary 20 hrs ago #34
ICE is the latter quakerboy 16 hrs ago #36
Thank God we have posters like you choie 14 hrs ago #38
Sadly agree. I also put "Medicare for All" in that category, much as I appreciate Bernie generally AZJonnie Friday #22
I agree with you to a point. But you can't just abolish ICE. They do have a legitimate job that has to be done. flashman13 Thursday #7
Ice has only existed since 2003 angrychair Thursday #10
ICE in some form or other has existed as long as we have had borders. Some organization must control the border. flashman13 Thursday #15
And CBP did that job angrychair Friday #19
At this point I don't see an iota of difference between ICE and CPB. flashman13 Friday #25
We had the INS to do that job. ICE, as they are today, serve no AllyCat Friday #21
ice is not legitimate quakerboy Saturday #31
I AGREE with you, but the Democrats will have no power to abolish ICE Jack Valentino Thursday #12
They should at least try angrychair Thursday #14
I was about to give you a REC because you were on the same path as me -- and then you veered sharply off. W_HAMILTON Friday #28
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