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angrychair

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13. There is a difference

Thu Jan 29, 2026, 11:40 PM

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Between not getting all we want and helping Republicans get what they want.

As you stated, they have total control. So why are we participating in this at all? They can pass it all with a part line vote so pass it. We should not be compromising or legitimizing what they are doing.

That is the thing that pisses people off. The majority of people, the majority of Democrats, want to abolish ICE. Sure, they might not be able to convince enough Republicans to side with them but they should still try. If nothing else, they should not lift a finger to help them. Democrats could all not vote at all and the Republicans can still pass any legislation they want.
Try to convince the , offer amendments. Do whatever you can do to change their mind. That all fails? Then not a single person should lift a finger to help pass a Republican agenda.

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This Funding Bill is Pointless [View all] angrychair Thursday OP

All true and he will move money from other programs anyway. chicoescuela Thursday #1

ABOLISH ICE is now the moderate position leftstreet Thursday #2

Not just I.C.E! Homeland Security needs to end. DJ Synikus Makisimus Thursday #3

"DHS funding is theater to make everyone feel better and feel like Congress is doing something." J_William_Ryan Thursday #4

The Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act needs to be repealed Blue Full Moon Thursday #5

"Abolish ICE" - Yet another BS slogan.... reACTIONary Thursday #6

Fuck axeleod angrychair Thursday #8

Exactly mvd Thursday #16

Do you think that immigration enforcement is unnecessary? And... reACTIONary Friday #24

It doesn't matter when ICE was established.... reACTIONary Thursday #17

I agree with you Pototan Thursday #9

There is a difference angrychair Thursday #13

A majority of Americans also support... reACTIONary Friday #18

Surveys support the position angrychair Friday #20

Surveys also support immigration enforcement... reACTIONary Friday #26

Pre-patriot act, ice was part of the immigration and naturalization service and domestic terrorism the FBI's bailiwick. pat_k Friday #27

Since you're so interested in language choie Friday #29

Maybe Unlawful Immigrants? "Undocumented" is... reACTIONary 2 hrs ago #35

do or die quakerboy Thursday #11

In my humble opinion... reACTIONary Friday #23

in my humble opinion quakerboy 21 hrs ago #30

Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but since you brought it up again... reACTIONary 21 hrs ago #32

That is the norm. quakerboy 12 hrs ago #33

This sort of organization? reACTIONary 4 hrs ago #34

ICE is the latter quakerboy 22 min ago #36

Sadly agree. I also put "Medicare for All" in that category, much as I appreciate Bernie generally AZJonnie Friday #22

I agree with you to a point. But you can't just abolish ICE. They do have a legitimate job that has to be done. flashman13 Thursday #7

Ice has only existed since 2003 angrychair Thursday #10

ICE in some form or other has existed as long as we have had borders. Some organization must control the border. flashman13 Thursday #15

And CBP did that job angrychair Friday #19

At this point I don't see an iota of difference between ICE and CPB. flashman13 Friday #25

We had the INS to do that job. ICE, as they are today, serve no AllyCat Friday #21

ice is not legitimate quakerboy 21 hrs ago #31

I AGREE with you, but the Democrats will have no power to abolish ICE Jack Valentino Thursday #12

They should at least try angrychair Thursday #14

I was about to give you a REC because you were on the same path as me -- and then you veered sharply off. W_HAMILTON Friday #28