This Funding Bill is Pointless

[quakerboy]

36. ICE is the latter

And has been for a long time, possibly all of its brief existence. It is not about immigration law enforcement. That is, was, and continues to be a threadbare excuse for creating a non-accountable private army operating with impunity inside the USA.

ICE is not necessary to maintain laws. Not even immigration laws. We arrested and deported non citizens long before ice existed. Ice needs to be abolished. It is corrupt start to end, top to bottom. It can not be reformed. Having an agency built on a base of kidnap, murder, and surveillance of American citizens, with complete impunity is fundamentally incompatible with continuing to have a democracy in this country. If it is not abolished, even if it is shrunk to a morsel, it will act as a cancer, waiting its time to spread again.

Do we need immigration controls? Sure. Lets use one of the other agencies that we have for that purpose CPB, perhaps. Or build a new one if we need a separate crew. ICE is not it, and can not be turned into it, short of a complete firing of every single person in the agency, top to bottom, and a complete rebuild from the bedrock up. At which point, you are still abolishing it and starting a new organization, just keeping the name and attendant baggage.

I would also say that It worries me that there are Du'rs who are so head in the sand that they think accurately noting current actual reality qualifies as hyperbolic or hysterical.

I also have family who have often stated beliefs as you describe. I guess im blessed with the ones who are at least somewhat paying attention to reality, though. At this point, even the 3 time trump supporters in my family are realizing how quickly things have gone bad. I will grant their ideas of how to deal with that are very different than mine, Revolving more around withdrawing from society until things work themselves out, rather than trying to fix them, but at least amongst my folks, they can see that this is not "normal" and that we are no longer fighting a slippery slope, we are have lost and are rapidly nearing freefall.