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cachukis

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3. The reasoning aspect is key.

Mon Feb 9, 2026, 09:53 PM

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My thinking on the fallacy of AI becoming intelligent is its inability for humility.
It is working to become Spock, but without a Kirk rebuttal.
I'm thinking it is going to be a more advanced computer building on video games for human engagement on the day to day.
It will advance and fail on practical application, but it will get better over time.
I fear the laziness of most brains will succumb to its easy solutions. We are seeing how the entertainment value of social media has taken over credentialed knowledge.
People are now creating their own Chat friends.
I fear the technological advantages for the business goals will have long term systemic disruptions in social systems that will be difficult to escape.
Can we draw guidelines to handle the dichotomy?
Worry the money runs the show.

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