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hunter

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26. You are using the language of the AI promoters.

Tue Feb 10, 2026, 02:22 PM

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There is no "they" in AI and it's not "trying" to do anything.

It's as sentient as the filter paper in your chemistry lab or coffee maker and there are still gaping holes and tears in that filter paper that let a lot of nonsense through.

Patching those holes and tears will never make the machines "intelligent."

I think we've still got a long way to go before we create a machine that's actually intelligent. It's one of those technologies that hangs just beyond our grasp like fusion power plants or manned trips to Mars. I think it's going to remain so for a long, long time no matter how many hucksters are trying to sell us futures in it today.

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