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highplainsdem

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28. AI expert Gary Marcus's response to that paper:
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:41 PM
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https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/breaking-llm-reasoning-continues

BREAKING: LLM “reasoning” continues to be deeply flawed
A new review underscores the breadth of the problem, and shows that close to a trillion dollars hasn’t changed that

Gary Marcus
Feb 10, 2026


As you may know, I have been harping on reasoning as a core challenge for deep learning for well over a decade, at least since a December 2012 New Yorker article:

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By now many, many others have pounded on the same point.

Silicon Valley’s response has always been to dismiss us. We got this covered, the Valley CEOs will tell you. Pay no attention to Gary or any of the other academics from Subbarao Kambhampati to Judea Pearl to Ernest Davis to Ken Forbus to Melanie Mitchell to Yann LeCun to Francesca Rossi, and many others (including more recently Ilya Sutskever), who are also skeptical. Ignore the big AAAI survey that said that LLMs won’t get us to AGI. Surely that Apple study must be biased too. Give us money. Lots of money. Lots and lots of money. Scale Scale Scale. AGI is coming next year!

Well, AGI still hasn’t come (even though they keep issuing the same promises, year after year). LLMs still hallucinate and continue to make boneheaded errors.

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More at the link.

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Kick SheltieLover Monday #1
Thanks! highplainsdem Tuesday #16
Yw! SheltieLover Tuesday #17
Is it accepted that generative AI reasons? Iris Monday #2
Depends on the person EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #8
It's called reasoning by people working on and promoting AI, but it's really more a pretense of highplainsdem Tuesday #13
The main problem is how to assess evidence. Happy Hoosier Tuesday #23
Thank you for providing this context. Iris Thursday #30
The reasoning aspect is key. cachukis Monday #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Whiskeytide Tuesday #10
I like your Spock/Kirk analogy, but then I thought ... Whiskeytide Tuesday #11
I think Spock recognized humanity as a whole cloth. cachukis Tuesday #24
I wonder how this affects ... rog Monday #4
Whether or not an AI model shows its reasoning - its pretense of reasoning - you should never trust highplainsdem Tuesday #14
That's an issue that seems to be coming up again and again . . . hatrack Tuesday #18
With the "bonus" of dumbing yourself down, de-skilling yourself, as you try to let the AI do the work. highplainsdem Tuesday #19
Same reason I refuse to use AI when writing or researching . . . hatrack Tuesday #20
You may be missing my point ... rog Tuesday #21
Summarizing isn't something AI is good at, judging by examples I've seen. Organizing by subject or highplainsdem Tuesday #25
I just got back from an appointment with my vascular surgeon. rog Tuesday #27
The most clueless dogs I've met have better internal models of reality than any AI. hunter Tuesday #5
I've never forgotten a software engineer and machine learning expert saying an amoeba is more intelligent than an LLM. highplainsdem Tuesday #15
I wonder how Neuro-sama would do on the test sakabatou Tuesday #6
In a way, this is a computerized version of odins folly Tuesday #7
This explains why... purr-rat beauty Tuesday #9
Sam Altman is a serial liar who's fired everywhere he's been - including Open AI. 617Blue Tuesday #12
LLM's can't really reason. Happy Hoosier Tuesday #22
You are using the language of the AI promoters. hunter Tuesday #26
I work in software development. Such Anthropomorphic language is common. Happy Hoosier Tuesday #29
AI expert Gary Marcus's response to that paper: highplainsdem Tuesday #28
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