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GiqueCee

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95. Good point...

Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:57 PM

Feb 23

... but, as I mentioned in another response, Facebook does require your real name. And I would imagine that any cretins that did dox a woman could be just as easily tracked down and prosecuted for such behavior.
I'm just thinking out loud, I guess, about to how to combat these malicious turds, but it may be like trying to turn the tide with a teaspoon; there'll always be lowlifes like Fuentes, Tate, and Kirk who are irredeemable skid marks, and whose rhetoric validates the mental defectives that follow them. They make me ashamed to be a man. Make that an OLD man! I'm just a year and change shy of 80, but I never tire of learning, especially learning how to be a better person.
I'm certain that the anonymity afforded by fake names emboldens and enables such wastes of skin, but maybe if that mask was ripped away, such cowards would think twice. But that assumes that they are capable of actually thinking at all.

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I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all] marble falls Feb 23 OP

Social Media Has Made Society Worse Than It Was ProfessorGAC Feb 23 #1

Indeed. And we raise our men terribly. marble falls Feb 23 #2

That reminds me of a remark soldierant Feb 23 #189

There is a cure for all these, but no one wants to do it...UNSUBSCRIBE to ALL of it! That is the CURE! Escurumbele Feb 23 #24

Ok By Me ProfessorGAC Feb 23 #57

Good idea but not realistic blubunyip Feb 23 #70

Because we let them. Because there is no credible protest against this. Because this Scrivener7 Feb 23 #136

What about having men police themselves? How many men call out other men for their hateful comments and threats? ihaveaquestion Feb 23 #86

You used the word "male." Is that not derogatory, yet "female" is? Doodley Feb 23 #109

You think you scored a big point there, don't you? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #135

Using "male" as an adjective rather than a noun is appropriate. Here's a link spooky3 Feb 23 #143

That's your response to a call for men to be responsible? WTF!?!?! ihaveaquestion Feb 23 #177

I doubt there are many men on this forum who disagree that there are men who are disrespectful to women, and Doodley Feb 23 #186

Worse by orders of magnitude. SKKY Feb 23 #179

Why anyone still uses any Zuckerberg product is beyond me. No one needs that and they're Scrivener7 Feb 23 #3

Quit FB years ago. Never went on Instagram. Ritabert Feb 23 #7

Same here, and I'm a 78-year-old man with a wife and sisters. Email, and DU is the extent of my online activity. usaf-vet Feb 23 #52

Same here. Ritabert Feb 23 #88

Stop Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #4

Good Point ProfessorGAC Feb 23 #5

Any forum with inadequate moderation is quickly hijacked by men and boys... hunter Feb 23 #60

Right blubunyip Feb 23 #73

Then, at the very least, there needs to be a movement demanding adequate moderation. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #80

Not sure this equates. Hope22 Feb 23 #12

Post removed Post removed Feb 23 #14

So, basically, kudzukimchi Feb 23 #19

Really, dude? Welcome to DU. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #21

I just knew Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #23

Agree Mossfern Feb 23 #41

Well said! csusan Feb 23 #42

She's 15. All kids are on social media. Joinfortmill Feb 23 #31

Again, it's Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #35

Not quite. Joinfortmill Feb 23 #39

Umm... Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #40

That's Boomer logic Polybius Feb 23 #63

Yes blubunyip Feb 23 #75

It brought back the memory of then PM Golda Meir's response when men suggested she enact a curfew for women Attilatheblond Feb 23 #127

Similar to get the red out Feb 23 #128

But, it seems, there are only two available options: leave the source, or demand Scrivener7 Feb 23 #83

I'm not going to pretend to have a solution, but this is not just about social media spaces. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #144

I'm in no way dismissive of her concerns. And I've said elsewhere in the thread Scrivener7 Feb 23 #149

The issue is that the abuse does not stop online. The piece was a plea for change not a request for personal advice Ilikepurple Feb 23 #161

I'm not dismissing anything. I never said anything about the banning children idea being outlandish, in fact Scrivener7 Feb 23 #163

I'm sorry. I apologize for mixing some of your comments with another member. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #178

Have a nice night. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #180

Moot point, not 'mute' point GenThePerservering Sunday #203

Sorry, sometimes autocorrect kicks in when posting from mobile devices or a may have just mistyped Ilikepurple Sunday #204

Boys will stop that behaviour when they find out it is not cool, when there is no one on social media, besides Escurumbele Feb 23 #26

Victim blaming much? You're kidding, right? Joinfortmill Feb 23 #33

Amazing to me how the victim is always held responsible because "we all know men can't help speaking ... marble falls Feb 23 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author blubunyip Feb 23 #76

Please explain how the post is "victim blaming." Doodley Feb 23 #119

Telling girls to get off social media doesn't solve the problem and it's a bit like spooky3 Feb 23 #130

Progressive Democrats don't develop lifelong issues with self-esteem and trust Scrivener7 Feb 23 #138

Notice that I said it's "a bit like", not "exactly like." spooky3 Feb 23 #142

Do you see anything being done that indicates the bad behavior is being discouraged? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #145

When I first stopped using X and started using Threads, spooky3 Feb 23 #146

So there are places these kids could go and be safe instead of instagram. I wish they would. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #151

Instagram is linked to Threads, but she could just ignore Instagram spooky3 Feb 23 #155

We could just tell kids all their parents are on instagram. That'll send them running away. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #156

LOL! Nt spooky3 Feb 23 #158

Women once needed escorts to enter taverns leftstreet Feb 23 #27

Right because some men can't seem to control thenselves Joinfortmill Feb 23 #34

Paint Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #45

"Some men" is a wide brush? Wednesdays Feb 23 #53

As wide a brush as "stay off the internet. Problem solved!"? Torchlight Feb 23 #61

This centurys version of homegirl Feb 23 #103

As one man, I didn't feel the brush came very close to painting me. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #164

Or Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #43

Instagram isn't CAUSING her problems leftstreet Feb 23 #79

Your interlocutor has left the thread Prairie Gates Feb 23 #92

So what do you do to protect your fifteen year old daughter from this right now? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #106

I don't know leftstreet Feb 23 #114

We do have that history. But I'm not seeing the will to apply it to social media. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #129

I'm not sure you could make a ban on using instagram stick for a 15-year-old. MineralMan Feb 23 #123

Yes. Your response is unsatisfactory because it's amazingly naive. "Calling out" these assaults has never done anything Scrivener7 Feb 23 #131

Doing what i can.. MineralMan Feb 23 #139

"the problem is undisciplined girls" blubunyip Feb 23 #81

What do you suggest? Imagine you're this fifteen year old's mother. What do you do? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #105

Come together with other mothers, fathers, daughters AND sons blubunyip Feb 23 #116

I totally agree. There should be a major protest against this. But there isn't. I can't fathom why. But there isn't. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #132

This isn't a woman. This is a child. And she is being abused. I'd forbid instagram in a heartbeat. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #111

Well yes! leftstreet Feb 23 #117

Absolutely. We only get better products when we demand better products. And sometimes Scrivener7 Feb 23 #133

Stop johnp3907 Feb 23 #108

She's not a woman. She's a child. And she's being abused. What would you do to stop that Scrivener7 Feb 23 #112

Social media is a pretty damn big neighborhood Quiet Em Feb 23 #122

iI's not just a matter of social media.. whathehell Feb 23 #166

These repulsive little worms... GiqueCee Feb 23 #6

"Suppose social media platforms required them to use their REAL names, and not some made-up handle." MichMan Feb 23 #55

If women used their names they'd be seriously shit-stormed and doxxed. marble falls Feb 23 #59

Good point... GiqueCee Feb 23 #95

No... GiqueCee Feb 23 #85

Sounds really serious Torchlight Feb 23 #93

The military has always used 'girl'as a means of humilating men. milestogo Feb 23 #8

Today's bright moment of clarity -- right here. Duncan Grant Feb 23 #102

The juvenile males who own and run social media are intentionally responsible for this. Clouds Passing Feb 23 #9

Let's not forget how Zuckerberg got his start. llmart Feb 23 #13

He's a creepster Clouds Passing Feb 23 #16

I don't think Zuck ever had a GF..... SergeStorms Feb 23 #38

From Wiki... llmart Feb 23 #66

Wow. SergeStorms Feb 23 #152

You use the word "males," but female is an insult? Please explain. Doodley Feb 23 #113

I didn't say or imply that female is an insult Clouds Passing Feb 23 #159

Dehumanizing hatred at such a young age seems difficult to avoid in the 21 century Torchlight Feb 23 #10

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Feb 23 #22

Yes. It's victim blaming n/t Just_Vote_Dem Feb 23 #49

But don't. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #78

That is true in many, many cases. MineralMan Feb 23 #90

Women, myself included, have spent lifetimes doing that. And yet here we are. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #91

OK, but I'll continue to call out sexism and misogyny when I encounter it. MineralMan Feb 23 #96

We all do that. You are not unique in that. It doesn't change anything about the abuse this child is facing. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #98

And after all these years of doing it Bettie Feb 23 #99

I just said the same downthread. I think we're all feeling that. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #100

+1 leftstreet Feb 23 #25

My sentiments exactly Mossfern Feb 23 #48

Telling people to avoid social media is as absurd Torchlight Feb 23 #50

Imagine she is your child. Are you going to feel like the solution is to wait until the culture Scrivener7 Feb 23 #97

I share your concern about keeping youth safe from harmful online content. Torchlight Feb 23 #101

I totally agree. But in the meantime, my kid would not be allowed to go near it. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #104

My heart goes out to the girls and young women. Hope22 Feb 23 #11

Even nice men often see it as a "woman's problem" blubunyip Feb 23 #84

Are you saying no men joined in the fight to protect Roe V. Wade? Doodley Feb 23 #121

Please..... Hope22 Feb 23 #137

Do you think tens of millions of Democratic men don't stand up for women's rights? Come on! Please! Doodley Feb 23 #141

I'm semi retired now. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 23 #15

Did you also have the same restriction to the usage of "males" MichMan Feb 23 #56

Absolutely!! WinstonSmith4740 Feb 23 #82

So we should all be banned from using the words male and female except for the animal kingdom? Are you kidding? Doodley Feb 23 #118

No... WinstonSmith4740 Sunday #202

...... Diamond_Dog Feb 23 #17

Amen Joinfortmill Feb 23 #36

Please! I am a man who respects women. Every Thanksgiving dinner I make a speech that I want to see more women Doodley Feb 23 #120

That's great. Quiet Em Feb 23 #124

It says "men," not some men, not certain men, not a small percentage of men, but "men." Doodley Feb 23 #125

She did not say all men either. Quiet Em Feb 23 #134

Please! If I said "women are a problem," does that sound okay to you? I don't think that is acceptable. Doodley Feb 23 #140

Let's stay in the context of the topic and discussion on this thread Quiet Em Feb 23 #150

She isn't a "young girl." She's 15. Doodley Feb 23 #157

She's 15. She is a girl, sir. Quiet Em Feb 23 #160

She isn't a young girl. She takes offense at "female," so at least, let's not call her a "young girl." Doodley Feb 23 #184

I have no idea what you are talking about. Quiet Em Feb 23 #188

Yawn. The not-all-men argument---like we haven't heard that before. CrispyQ Feb 23 #181

If I said "women are the problem," would you say that was acceptable? I would not ever say that as it is offensive and Doodley Feb 23 #185

I didn't feel tarred. I'm not sure why you think this is about you. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #175

Do you know what my race is? Where I was born? If I have a disability? What my religion is? No. Please don't stereotype Doodley Feb 23 #187

I'm not sure I spoke to any of those things other than mentioning marginalization. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #191

I don't have Instagram and have never used it but I have had Facebook Bev54 Feb 23 #18

With very few exceptions, "Social" media are pure poison. usonian Feb 23 #20

DU is my only social media... BigmanPigman Feb 23 #28

This is horrifying. What kind of men are we raising? Joinfortmill Feb 23 #29

Trump acolytes. Wednesdays Feb 23 #51

The same ones we have always raised. 1WorldHope Feb 23 #74

Ding, ding, ding, THAT IS THE POINT! Buddyzbuddy Feb 23 #89

It makes me think of a book I read FullySupportDems Feb 23 #30

That was my 2nd Tepper novel. CrispyQ Feb 23 #182

Oh yes, I forgot about Grass! 😊 FullySupportDems Tuesday #201

I was called a "cuck" yesterday on X by a woman defending Tuckers Mosby Feb 23 #32

Wracking my puny "female brain" xuplate Feb 23 #37

I completely understand why many women may want to have little to do with men. Sometimes it seems like men are a blight Fil1957 Feb 23 #44

I get that entirely. I do not crowd women or children because I don't want to cause them fear that I am one ... marble falls Feb 23 #69

I don't think I've ever seen you stray even into the neighborhood of mansplaining. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #154

My mistake was thinking providing background was a "service". I've had to learn to wait to be asked for ... marble falls Tuesday #198

I have to say, the people here have taught me a lot too. I hadn't heard that three responses and out advice. I'm going Scrivener7 Tuesday #199

Skinner had good advice, too. When we on MIRT were getting too serious about how and why, he suggested ... marble falls Tuesday #200

Social media is a great source of people, families to keep in touch. It's beautiful. BUT bluestarone Feb 23 #46

Women Keep A Body Count???? Coolgoober Feb 23 #47

Incels think this about women, and they're pissed because they aren't getting in on anyone's count at all. marble falls Feb 23 #67

Facebook is cancer JoseBalow Feb 23 #54

Thank you for sharing. Martin68 Feb 23 #62

Even my husband gets the Proverbial Pissed Off when he hears how some men think of females. chouchou Feb 23 #64

Boys jump at that shit in a nanosecond GenThePerservering Feb 23 #65

Parents need to teach their boys Bettie Feb 23 #68

We can't fix this online. It starts at home and in school. marble falls Feb 23 #72

That's true Bettie Feb 23 #87

But that means this fifteen year old has to endure this until the culture changes. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #94

The kids need better tools GenThePerservering Feb 23 #107

I'm speaking as someone whose only social media is DU, so I understand that I am Scrivener7 Feb 23 #110

You're fighting the good fight here Sympthsical Feb 23 #162

I wonder if people who grew up with this will be more careful with their own children. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #165

The parents my age are much more aware of it Sympthsical Feb 23 #169

I LOVE that idea of a flip phone for school! And I love to hear there is more healthy fear of this shit. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #171

Absolutely, but problems will beget problems Sympthsical Feb 23 #172

This is just the beginning. AI will do the rest. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #173

The parents of your niece did the right thing. Quiet Em Feb 23 #167

It's in the frigging algorithms. This is how Zuckerberg makes his money. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #168

AI and filters aren't going to make it any better Sympthsical Feb 23 #174

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I'll be watching for those posts about your epiphanies. It sounds interesting. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #170

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My head is spinning a bit from this. I agree with you that the ones doing the work seem to be the ones who Scrivener7 Tuesday #195

And god forgive an action movie features a woman or person of color..only a white male can save the world BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 23 #77

Instagram and Facebook MorbidButterflyTat Feb 23 #115

Screw social media popsdenver Feb 23 #126

Easy to see why we've had no female presidents stollen Feb 23 #147

I talked my daughter out of the Annapolis, her ex-husband is an Air Force Academy graduate, who was ... marble falls Tuesday #197

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 23 #148

OMG MorbidButterflyTat Feb 23 #153

What's so funny? marble falls Tuesday #196

The beauty of posts like this drmeow Feb 23 #176

Sad to see. REALLY sad to see! calimary Feb 23 #183

Read a fascinating diagnosis of the problem. summer_in_TX Feb 23 #190

I don't understand this maxrandb Tuesday #194