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203. Moot point, not 'mute' point

Reply to Ilikepurple (Reply #178)

Sun Mar 1, 2026, 12:12 PM

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I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all] marble falls Feb 23 OP

Social Media Has Made Society Worse Than It Was ProfessorGAC Feb 23 #1

Indeed. And we raise our men terribly. marble falls Feb 23 #2

That reminds me of a remark soldierant Feb 23 #189

There is a cure for all these, but no one wants to do it...UNSUBSCRIBE to ALL of it! That is the CURE! Escurumbele Feb 23 #24

Ok By Me ProfessorGAC Feb 23 #57

Good idea but not realistic blubunyip Feb 23 #70

Because we let them. Because there is no credible protest against this. Because this Scrivener7 Feb 23 #136

What about having men police themselves? How many men call out other men for their hateful comments and threats? ihaveaquestion Feb 23 #86

You used the word "male." Is that not derogatory, yet "female" is? Doodley Feb 23 #109

You think you scored a big point there, don't you? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #135

Using "male" as an adjective rather than a noun is appropriate. Here's a link spooky3 Feb 23 #143

That's your response to a call for men to be responsible? WTF!?!?! ihaveaquestion Feb 23 #177

I doubt there are many men on this forum who disagree that there are men who are disrespectful to women, and Doodley Feb 23 #186

Worse by orders of magnitude. SKKY Feb 23 #179

Why anyone still uses any Zuckerberg product is beyond me. No one needs that and they're Scrivener7 Feb 23 #3

Quit FB years ago. Never went on Instagram. Ritabert Feb 23 #7

Same here, and I'm a 78-year-old man with a wife and sisters. Email, and DU is the extent of my online activity. usaf-vet Feb 23 #52

Same here. Ritabert Feb 23 #88

Stop Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #4

Good Point ProfessorGAC Feb 23 #5

Any forum with inadequate moderation is quickly hijacked by men and boys... hunter Feb 23 #60

Right blubunyip Feb 23 #73

Then, at the very least, there needs to be a movement demanding adequate moderation. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #80

Not sure this equates. Hope22 Feb 23 #12

Post removed Post removed Feb 23 #14

So, basically, kudzukimchi Feb 23 #19

Really, dude? Welcome to DU. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #21

I just knew Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #23

Agree Mossfern Feb 23 #41

Well said! csusan Feb 23 #42

She's 15. All kids are on social media. Joinfortmill Feb 23 #31

Again, it's Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #35

Not quite. Joinfortmill Feb 23 #39

Umm... Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #40

That's Boomer logic Polybius Feb 23 #63

Yes blubunyip Feb 23 #75

It brought back the memory of then PM Golda Meir's response when men suggested she enact a curfew for women Attilatheblond Feb 23 #127

Similar to get the red out Feb 23 #128

But, it seems, there are only two available options: leave the source, or demand Scrivener7 Feb 23 #83

I'm not going to pretend to have a solution, but this is not just about social media spaces. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #144

I'm in no way dismissive of her concerns. And I've said elsewhere in the thread Scrivener7 Feb 23 #149

The issue is that the abuse does not stop online. The piece was a plea for change not a request for personal advice Ilikepurple Feb 23 #161

I'm not dismissing anything. I never said anything about the banning children idea being outlandish, in fact Scrivener7 Feb 23 #163

I'm sorry. I apologize for mixing some of your comments with another member. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #178

Have a nice night. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #180

Moot point, not 'mute' point GenThePerservering Sunday #203

Sorry, sometimes autocorrect kicks in when posting from mobile devices or a may have just mistyped Ilikepurple Sunday #204

Boys will stop that behaviour when they find out it is not cool, when there is no one on social media, besides Escurumbele Feb 23 #26

Victim blaming much? You're kidding, right? Joinfortmill Feb 23 #33

Amazing to me how the victim is always held responsible because "we all know men can't help speaking ... marble falls Feb 23 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author blubunyip Feb 23 #76

Please explain how the post is "victim blaming." Doodley Feb 23 #119

Telling girls to get off social media doesn't solve the problem and it's a bit like spooky3 Feb 23 #130

Progressive Democrats don't develop lifelong issues with self-esteem and trust Scrivener7 Feb 23 #138

Notice that I said it's "a bit like", not "exactly like." spooky3 Feb 23 #142

Do you see anything being done that indicates the bad behavior is being discouraged? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #145

When I first stopped using X and started using Threads, spooky3 Feb 23 #146

So there are places these kids could go and be safe instead of instagram. I wish they would. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #151

Instagram is linked to Threads, but she could just ignore Instagram spooky3 Feb 23 #155

We could just tell kids all their parents are on instagram. That'll send them running away. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #156

LOL! Nt spooky3 Feb 23 #158

Women once needed escorts to enter taverns leftstreet Feb 23 #27

Right because some men can't seem to control thenselves Joinfortmill Feb 23 #34

Paint Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #45

"Some men" is a wide brush? Wednesdays Feb 23 #53

As wide a brush as "stay off the internet. Problem solved!"? Torchlight Feb 23 #61

This centurys version of homegirl Feb 23 #103

As one man, I didn't feel the brush came very close to painting me. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #164

Or Greg_In_SF Feb 23 #43

Instagram isn't CAUSING her problems leftstreet Feb 23 #79

Your interlocutor has left the thread Prairie Gates Feb 23 #92

So what do you do to protect your fifteen year old daughter from this right now? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #106

I don't know leftstreet Feb 23 #114

We do have that history. But I'm not seeing the will to apply it to social media. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #129

I'm not sure you could make a ban on using instagram stick for a 15-year-old. MineralMan Feb 23 #123

Yes. Your response is unsatisfactory because it's amazingly naive. "Calling out" these assaults has never done anything Scrivener7 Feb 23 #131

Doing what i can.. MineralMan Feb 23 #139

"the problem is undisciplined girls" blubunyip Feb 23 #81

What do you suggest? Imagine you're this fifteen year old's mother. What do you do? Scrivener7 Feb 23 #105

Come together with other mothers, fathers, daughters AND sons blubunyip Feb 23 #116

I totally agree. There should be a major protest against this. But there isn't. I can't fathom why. But there isn't. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #132

This isn't a woman. This is a child. And she is being abused. I'd forbid instagram in a heartbeat. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #111

Well yes! leftstreet Feb 23 #117

Absolutely. We only get better products when we demand better products. And sometimes Scrivener7 Feb 23 #133

Stop johnp3907 Feb 23 #108

She's not a woman. She's a child. And she's being abused. What would you do to stop that Scrivener7 Feb 23 #112

Social media is a pretty damn big neighborhood Quiet Em Feb 23 #122

iI's not just a matter of social media.. whathehell Feb 23 #166

These repulsive little worms... GiqueCee Feb 23 #6

"Suppose social media platforms required them to use their REAL names, and not some made-up handle." MichMan Feb 23 #55

If women used their names they'd be seriously shit-stormed and doxxed. marble falls Feb 23 #59

Good point... GiqueCee Feb 23 #95

No... GiqueCee Feb 23 #85

Sounds really serious Torchlight Feb 23 #93

The military has always used 'girl'as a means of humilating men. milestogo Feb 23 #8

Today's bright moment of clarity -- right here. Duncan Grant Feb 23 #102

The juvenile males who own and run social media are intentionally responsible for this. Clouds Passing Feb 23 #9

Let's not forget how Zuckerberg got his start. llmart Feb 23 #13

He's a creepster Clouds Passing Feb 23 #16

I don't think Zuck ever had a GF..... SergeStorms Feb 23 #38

From Wiki... llmart Feb 23 #66

Wow. SergeStorms Feb 23 #152

You use the word "males," but female is an insult? Please explain. Doodley Feb 23 #113

I didn't say or imply that female is an insult Clouds Passing Feb 23 #159

Dehumanizing hatred at such a young age seems difficult to avoid in the 21 century Torchlight Feb 23 #10

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Feb 23 #22

Yes. It's victim blaming n/t Just_Vote_Dem Feb 23 #49

But don't. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #78

That is true in many, many cases. MineralMan Feb 23 #90

Women, myself included, have spent lifetimes doing that. And yet here we are. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #91

OK, but I'll continue to call out sexism and misogyny when I encounter it. MineralMan Feb 23 #96

We all do that. You are not unique in that. It doesn't change anything about the abuse this child is facing. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #98

And after all these years of doing it Bettie Feb 23 #99

I just said the same downthread. I think we're all feeling that. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #100

+1 leftstreet Feb 23 #25

My sentiments exactly Mossfern Feb 23 #48

Telling people to avoid social media is as absurd Torchlight Feb 23 #50

Imagine she is your child. Are you going to feel like the solution is to wait until the culture Scrivener7 Feb 23 #97

I share your concern about keeping youth safe from harmful online content. Torchlight Feb 23 #101

I totally agree. But in the meantime, my kid would not be allowed to go near it. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #104

My heart goes out to the girls and young women. Hope22 Feb 23 #11

Even nice men often see it as a "woman's problem" blubunyip Feb 23 #84

Are you saying no men joined in the fight to protect Roe V. Wade? Doodley Feb 23 #121

Please..... Hope22 Feb 23 #137

Do you think tens of millions of Democratic men don't stand up for women's rights? Come on! Please! Doodley Feb 23 #141

I'm semi retired now. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 23 #15

Did you also have the same restriction to the usage of "males" MichMan Feb 23 #56

Absolutely!! WinstonSmith4740 Feb 23 #82

So we should all be banned from using the words male and female except for the animal kingdom? Are you kidding? Doodley Feb 23 #118

No... WinstonSmith4740 Sunday #202

...... Diamond_Dog Feb 23 #17

Amen Joinfortmill Feb 23 #36

Please! I am a man who respects women. Every Thanksgiving dinner I make a speech that I want to see more women Doodley Feb 23 #120

That's great. Quiet Em Feb 23 #124

It says "men," not some men, not certain men, not a small percentage of men, but "men." Doodley Feb 23 #125

She did not say all men either. Quiet Em Feb 23 #134

Please! If I said "women are a problem," does that sound okay to you? I don't think that is acceptable. Doodley Feb 23 #140

Let's stay in the context of the topic and discussion on this thread Quiet Em Feb 23 #150

She isn't a "young girl." She's 15. Doodley Feb 23 #157

She's 15. She is a girl, sir. Quiet Em Feb 23 #160

She isn't a young girl. She takes offense at "female," so at least, let's not call her a "young girl." Doodley Feb 23 #184

I have no idea what you are talking about. Quiet Em Feb 23 #188

Yawn. The not-all-men argument---like we haven't heard that before. CrispyQ Feb 23 #181

If I said "women are the problem," would you say that was acceptable? I would not ever say that as it is offensive and Doodley Feb 23 #185

I didn't feel tarred. I'm not sure why you think this is about you. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #175

Do you know what my race is? Where I was born? If I have a disability? What my religion is? No. Please don't stereotype Doodley Feb 23 #187

I'm not sure I spoke to any of those things other than mentioning marginalization. Ilikepurple Feb 23 #191

I don't have Instagram and have never used it but I have had Facebook Bev54 Feb 23 #18

With very few exceptions, "Social" media are pure poison. usonian Feb 23 #20

DU is my only social media... BigmanPigman Feb 23 #28

This is horrifying. What kind of men are we raising? Joinfortmill Feb 23 #29

Trump acolytes. Wednesdays Feb 23 #51

The same ones we have always raised. 1WorldHope Feb 23 #74

Ding, ding, ding, THAT IS THE POINT! Buddyzbuddy Feb 23 #89

It makes me think of a book I read FullySupportDems Feb 23 #30

That was my 2nd Tepper novel. CrispyQ Feb 23 #182

Oh yes, I forgot about Grass! 😊 FullySupportDems Tuesday #201

I was called a "cuck" yesterday on X by a woman defending Tuckers Mosby Feb 23 #32

Wracking my puny "female brain" xuplate Feb 23 #37

I completely understand why many women may want to have little to do with men. Sometimes it seems like men are a blight Fil1957 Feb 23 #44

I get that entirely. I do not crowd women or children because I don't want to cause them fear that I am one ... marble falls Feb 23 #69

I don't think I've ever seen you stray even into the neighborhood of mansplaining. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #154

My mistake was thinking providing background was a "service". I've had to learn to wait to be asked for ... marble falls Tuesday #198

I have to say, the people here have taught me a lot too. I hadn't heard that three responses and out advice. I'm going Scrivener7 Tuesday #199

Skinner had good advice, too. When we on MIRT were getting too serious about how and why, he suggested ... marble falls Tuesday #200

Social media is a great source of people, families to keep in touch. It's beautiful. BUT bluestarone Feb 23 #46

Women Keep A Body Count???? Coolgoober Feb 23 #47

Incels think this about women, and they're pissed because they aren't getting in on anyone's count at all. marble falls Feb 23 #67

Facebook is cancer JoseBalow Feb 23 #54

Thank you for sharing. Martin68 Feb 23 #62

Even my husband gets the Proverbial Pissed Off when he hears how some men think of females. chouchou Feb 23 #64

Boys jump at that shit in a nanosecond GenThePerservering Feb 23 #65

Parents need to teach their boys Bettie Feb 23 #68

We can't fix this online. It starts at home and in school. marble falls Feb 23 #72

That's true Bettie Feb 23 #87

But that means this fifteen year old has to endure this until the culture changes. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #94

The kids need better tools GenThePerservering Feb 23 #107

I'm speaking as someone whose only social media is DU, so I understand that I am Scrivener7 Feb 23 #110

You're fighting the good fight here Sympthsical Feb 23 #162

I wonder if people who grew up with this will be more careful with their own children. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #165

The parents my age are much more aware of it Sympthsical Feb 23 #169

I LOVE that idea of a flip phone for school! And I love to hear there is more healthy fear of this shit. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #171

Absolutely, but problems will beget problems Sympthsical Feb 23 #172

This is just the beginning. AI will do the rest. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #173

The parents of your niece did the right thing. Quiet Em Feb 23 #167

It's in the frigging algorithms. This is how Zuckerberg makes his money. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #168

AI and filters aren't going to make it any better Sympthsical Feb 23 #174

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I'll be watching for those posts about your epiphanies. It sounds interesting. Scrivener7 Feb 23 #170

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My head is spinning a bit from this. I agree with you that the ones doing the work seem to be the ones who Scrivener7 Tuesday #195

And god forgive an action movie features a woman or person of color..only a white male can save the world BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 23 #77

Instagram and Facebook MorbidButterflyTat Feb 23 #115

Screw social media popsdenver Feb 23 #126

Easy to see why we've had no female presidents stollen Feb 23 #147

I talked my daughter out of the Annapolis, her ex-husband is an Air Force Academy graduate, who was ... marble falls Tuesday #197

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 23 #148

OMG MorbidButterflyTat Feb 23 #153

What's so funny? marble falls Tuesday #196

The beauty of posts like this drmeow Feb 23 #176

Sad to see. REALLY sad to see! calimary Feb 23 #183

Read a fascinating diagnosis of the problem. summer_in_TX Feb 23 #190

I don't understand this maxrandb Tuesday #194