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AZJonnie

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24. MS didn't invent the characters that are the 'curly' quotes
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 02:41 AM
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But it may be the case that Word was the first program (or at least the first really famous one) that automatically converted to them as you typed and sorta 'pairs them up' for you, such that the first one you type curves one way (an 'open' version, if you will), then the next one (in the same line) curves the other way (the 'closing' version). Like so: “Example”. I used the same key for both of those double-quotes, and Word converted them to an open/close pairing like that, that's where the "smart" part comes in.

I don't know that the browser's character set setting impacts this at all, I suspect the issue is already there before you actually see it rendered in your browser but I don't care enough to dig into it, nor know if I could even figure it out. If I was going to guess, it'd be a translation issue happening with the ODBC or JDBC database driver that connects the app server to the DB, which means basically at the exact point the data is pulled from the DB, before anything else happens to it downstream.

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I was wondering that too Lifeafter70 Tuesday #1
Can you link to one? Renew Deal Tuesday #7
It was earlier this afternoon Lifeafter70 Tuesday #9
In your browser menu canetoad Tuesday #2
Thanks, I'm using Safari at the moment. Switch to Firefox for bigger jobs. nt eppur_se_muova Tuesday #3
me too, since this afternoon on a thread I posted and on a very old post. bigtree Tuesday #4
Is this the thread? Renew Deal Tuesday #8
That was one I saw but there were others. Lifeafter70 Tuesday #10
Pasting one of the offending lines from that post: Renew Deal Tuesday #11
Try editing that post and you'll see the issue AZJonnie Yesterday #20
Just fyi ... Tasmanian Devil Tuesday #15
On that page, I see the problem - I don't know what causes it. Jim__ Tuesday #12
Could be tracking code that's getting passed through Renew Deal Tuesday #13
You should re-post this in the DU Community Help forum. Wednesdays Tuesday #5
Maybe you have a bad browser extension? Renew Deal Tuesday #6
Unlikely, because Wednesdays Tuesday #14
I had the same thing happen late this morning, when I cross-posted this thread highplainsdem Tuesday #16
It's caused by editing or previewing, if you just paste into a post and post it immediately it displays correctly AZJonnie Yesterday #19
It is happening with the 'curly' style single and double quotes like Word does, and it breaks in this way AZJonnie Yesterday #17
If I tried to do a 2nd edit, the 2nd set of sentences would've gotten munged up as well AZJonnie Yesterday #18
Thanks for working all that out ! I kind of figured it was a character set issue, and guessed 'smart' quotes ... eppur_se_muova Yesterday #21
In my experience, it's really likely the issue is happening during I/O with the database AZJonnie Yesterday #22
Thanks ! I've only done a very, very little C programming and know nothing about DBs, servers, etc. but ... eppur_se_muova Yesterday #23
MS didn't invent the characters that are the 'curly' quotes AZJonnie Yesterday #24
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