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NNadir

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5. I discussed this badly misinterpreted wishful thinking case in another thread on the topic.

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Sat Mar 28, 2026, 12:29 PM

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It's here:

As usual, the "percent talk" is taken completely out of context. From the full paper, to which I have access:

It is unfortunate that the general public has a poor understanding of the laws of thermodynamics so they tend to invest themselves in this sort of thing.

Because of land and material requirements, so called "renewable energy" and, in particular, solar electricity is not sustainable.

The only pathway out of the collapse of the planetary atmosphere is nuclear energy, and the longer we wait to understand this - and we've already waited way too long, buried under antinuclear mysticism - the less likely it is that we will be able to save that which remains to be saved.

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I am always raising my eyebrows James48 Saturday #3

Why? mr715 Saturday #19

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I discussed this badly misinterpreted wishful thinking case in another thread on the topic. NNadir Saturday #5

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I was just using it as an example angrychair Saturday #28

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Its a popsci distillation. mr715 Saturday #17

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