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NNadir

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10. That is appalling and dangerous nonsense. When confronted...
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 01:10 PM
Yesterday

...with this deadly rhetoric I ask people to show, that in the 70 years of commercial nuclear power, to show, by appeal to the primary scientific literature, that the storage of (valuable) used nuclear fuel has killed as many people as will die in the next ten hours from air pollution. That would be about 9000 people since air pollution, dangerous fossil fuel waste, kills about seven million people each year.

Note that does not include deaths from extreme heat and other form of extreme weather brought on by the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide.

I generally cite papers from that primary literature but I'm away from my computer.

I have never, not once, have met an antinuke who doesn't coddle dangerous fossil fuels although few are as overt about their support for the death of the planetary atmosphere as in the current case. Usually their support for the horrible coal industry is implied, not openly stated.

I appreciate the honesty although I'm appalled by it.

Have a nice day.

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We may not need any stinking oil after all.. [View all] multigraincracker Yesterday OP
Someone please explain how this doesn't break the first law of thermodynamics. harumph Yesterday #1
it is harnessing a 'second' source of energy, in addition to the solar stopdiggin Yesterday #2
Not if it's harnessing solar power, which is infinite as long as we have a source FakeNoose Yesterday #7
'solar power' doesn't do anything like 'revising' thermodynamics ... stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #30
I have no science background Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #9
No, that is thermodynamics. mr715 Yesterday #18
cool Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #21
I'm not buying any of this. To start with, there is no such thing as 100% efficency in any realm. flashman13 Yesterday #12
The 130% number being bandied about in the article refers to quantum efficiency Shermann Yesterday #16
I am always raising my eyebrows James48 Yesterday #3
Why? mr715 Yesterday #19
It isn't 130% efficient if it is 2 energy harvesting events. mr715 Yesterday #4
I discussed this badly misinterpreted wishful thinking case in another thread on the topic. NNadir Yesterday #5
No angrychair Yesterday #6
Mercury in the exhaust smoke. BidenRocks Yesterday #8
That is appalling and dangerous nonsense. When confronted... NNadir Yesterday #10
I was just using it as an example angrychair 22 hrs ago #28
Again, the question is, did radioactivity from nuclear power plants kill as many people in 70 years as died in the... NNadir 17 hrs ago #32
So by your logic angrychair 16 hrs ago #33
poster said absolutely nothing of the sort stopdiggin 2 hrs ago #39
After coal is burned fly ash has to be disposed of. What goes into the air stays in the air. twodogsbarking Yesterday #11
Coal ash has radioactivity and heavy metals IbogaProject Yesterday #14
More people have died in coal processing, burning than nuclear. mr715 Yesterday #15
Nonsense Disaffected Yesterday #24
Coal's main byproduct is CO2 NickB79 21 hrs ago #29
you could not be more completely misinformed - or wrong about a particular subject. stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #31
Hanford angrychair 15 hrs ago #34
Trade offs for any decision. mr715 14 hrs ago #37
No. They do not. (say differently) stopdiggin 2 hrs ago #38
Isn't this a peer review journal? multigraincracker Yesterday #13
Its a popsci distillation. mr715 Yesterday #17
No. I accessed the paper on which this pop misinformation is based. NNadir Yesterday #23
It's not a perpetual motion machine swong19104 Yesterday #20
Link to the actual scientific paper mentioned in the press report JHB Yesterday #22
The paper if not talking about energy conversion efficiency. Disaffected Yesterday #25
Wait!?! H2O Man Yesterday #27
Recommended. H2O Man Yesterday #26
Violates the first Law of Thermodynamics Smells like BS Melon 15 hrs ago #35
Whatever bankrupts the wretched Saudi oligarchs, the better! Initech 14 hrs ago #36
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