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Escurumbele

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15. The real difference between the two of them is that as dumb as GW is/was as president, and lets face it, he was another
Sun Mar 29, 2026, 09:01 AM
7 hrs ago

puppet, but him and the people around him were not traitors, they did not sympathize with Putin and other dictators, and at the end of it, as bad as they were, they acted based on an erroneous ideology, which does not excuse them for all their crimes from which they were never made accountable for, something that I was very disappointed about Obama/Biden.

Now the idiot-in-chief...this is a guy who has never loved his country, he has loved what his country and his dad have done and continue to do for him, he is the antithesis of JFK's famous quote " Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.", he sees the USA as a bank, some entity where he can withdraw money from by cheating, he hates people, regardless of where they come from, he goes against immigrants because they are easy target for him and his base. I could write forever about the evil buffoon, but I believe we all know who he, his family and those around him are. Whoever wrote that quote "When you say that 'he is an idiot', we all know who you are talking about." is so on point.

The GOP followed on Grover Norquist recommendation to the tee, here is what he said:
"All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate. [...]
Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared."

And there you have it!

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trump versus W [View all] mnmoderatedem 10 hrs ago OP
W's administration looks world class compared to this shit show newdeal2 9 hrs ago #1
Compared with Trump, W is a towering intellect. Crunchy Frog 9 hrs ago #2
This! Joinfortmill 7 hrs ago #16
Trump wants his "Mission Accomplished" moment too. hot2na 8 hrs ago #3
Sadly, you're right EuterpeThelo 8 hrs ago #5
My late husband and I EuterpeThelo 8 hrs ago #4
Very sorry to hear that. It must have been devastating. harumph 8 hrs ago #8
Thank you, Harumph EuterpeThelo 8 hrs ago #9
W was an idiot, but he had trusted staff Smackdown2019 8 hrs ago #6
Yes. I had that discussion with a friend during Trump's first term... thesquanderer 8 hrs ago #7
A lot of dems voted for the Iraq war, including 3-out-of-5 of our past presidential candidates so, CrispyQ 5 hrs ago #29
W started two long wars of occupation. 5,000 US troops died, and upwards of a million people in the region Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #10
HW was not horrible Cosmocat 8 hrs ago #11
W is like Thomas Jefferson compared to trump. Katinfl 7 hrs ago #12
Don't despair, I think the Grim Reaper is at his door. Joinfortmill 7 hrs ago #17
Sure hope you are right. Katinfl 6 hrs ago #21
For me it was Nixon; GW was doing his best to emulate nixon. mwmisses4289 7 hrs ago #13
I felt Nixon's shenanigans started GOP corruption. IzzaNuDay 6 hrs ago #23
The same GOP was behind them both IbogaProject 7 hrs ago #14
Like most things, it was complicated... Joinfortmill 7 hrs ago #19
The Nazis and Good Germans came earlier in 53 IbogaProject 6 hrs ago #26
The real difference between the two of them is that as dumb as GW is/was as president, and lets face it, he was another Escurumbele 7 hrs ago #15
trump is definitely more of a sadist and seems mucifer 3 hrs ago #30
I know what you mean, I felt the same way. lark 7 hrs ago #18
Much as I was against the war in Iraq Norbert 7 hrs ago #20
We were attacked in 2001 and allies came to help. Katinfl 6 hrs ago #22
I judge them equal in incompetence The Blue Flower 6 hrs ago #24
The GOP has been spiralling downward since Ike... Wounded Bear 6 hrs ago #25
I was 9 through 17 when Dubya was in the White House EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #27
I never thought I would say that about Nixon, for crissake. bluescribbler 6 hrs ago #28
Trump solidified his position on 1/6/21 ITAL 3 hrs ago #31
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