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Takket

(23,713 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2026, 09:38 AM 22 hrs ago

Does drumpf now meet the Constitutional Definition of Treason? [View all]

And if so does he qualify for the death penalty if convicted? (I'm not advocating for the death penalty, something i oppose, just musing on where a future AG could apply that, if they wanted to)

The constitutional definition of treason is pretty narrow: Read about it here if you want.

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-iii/clauses/39

Let's assume the "there's been no declaration of war so it can't be treason!" reasoning does NOT apply here and can't be used as an excuse. In other words the courts are satisfied by arguments that "yeah, congress didn't declare it, but its a fucking war". I'm asking if he is giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy because of this:

🔴 Russia shared satellite images of a US base in Saudi Arabia with Iran days before it was struck, according to Ukrainian intelligence.

Follow the latest updates below. 🔗
www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2...

Jon Cooper (@joncooper-us.bsky.social) 2026-03-29T12:55:17.037Z
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The fact that the the Trump Administration lifted sanctions on Russia while they were helping Iran target US bases is enough to criminally charge everyone involved in lifting those sanctions . I’m sure aiding the enemy is a crime .

Rich Boswell (@bozbuckeye.bsky.social) 2026-03-28T22:11:33.185Z


Either by complete incompetence or outright betrayal, by helping Russia we are de facto helping Iran target and kill our own troops and assets. We KNOW this is going on yet Trump is NOT stopping it. Now, we cannot expect Russia to simply not help Iran, that's not why this is treason. It is treason because they ARE helping Iran, with THEIR WAR against us, at the SAME TIME we are helping Russia.

I admit there are a lot of holes here......

Like, you would have to prove that Russia wouldn't just be helping Iran ANYWAY even if we did NOT lift the sanctions. Or put another way, you would have to prove that lifting the sanctions on Russia DIRECTLY improved their ability to help Iran wage war against the US assets. I'm ASSUMING that is true, and provable (and yeah, that the Supreme Court wouldn't just hand wave away the entire premise based on "the president has absolute immunity!!!!! which honestly is probably how this would go down).

ASSUMING THIS IS ALL PROVABLE, could he be convicted for treason?
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If we only had a fully functioning kacekwl 21 hrs ago #1
If only Garland used his garland 🤔 Clouds Passing 20 hrs ago #6
Nope Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #2
What about accomplice to murder by aiding in the deaths wnylib 20 hrs ago #7
But he can be charged with war crimes even if "War" has not been declared. chowder66 19 hrs ago #8
Sure... Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #12
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg... GiqueCee 19 hrs ago #9
The Rosenbergs weren't charged with treason Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #13
Yep, but apparently "treason" is sexier. harumph 19 hrs ago #18
Treason is quicker to type than "AARGLE BAARRGLE!" Nt Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #19
Sick of it too. I'm going to post U.S. Code 794 - Gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign government harumph 19 hrs ago #23
Even without a declaration of war, Russia wnylib 19 hrs ago #11
Nobody has been charged or convicted of treason in over 100 years without a declared war. Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #14
I am not a lawyer let alone a Constitutional scholar. wnylib 19 hrs ago #20
If your theory were true, Jane Fonda would have been executed before she won any Oscars. Nt Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #24
How many Americans did she kill with a photo op? wnylib 18 hrs ago #25
Should we prosecute based on the letter of the law? Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #26
Vibes??? wnylib 18 hrs ago #27
I agree- investigations and prosecutions to the full extent of the law Fiendish Thingy 17 hrs ago #29
What about the Congressional Magats gab13by13 21 hrs ago #3
So, no more Rule of Law? Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #16
Long exceeded that malaise 21 hrs ago #4
Republikans will keep him safe. Turbineguy 20 hrs ago #5
Treason is like pornography... hay rick 19 hrs ago #10
Since we are not in direct armed conflict with Russia, I don't think it meets the legal definition of "enemy". LudwigPastorius 19 hrs ago #15
It would never get to trial Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #17
The question is whether we still live in a constitutional republic, or if we've descended Gaugamela 19 hrs ago #21
Easily, right after war crimes and crimes against humanity. usonian 19 hrs ago #22
My question is - where did Russia get the intelligence they shared. yellow dahlia 18 hrs ago #28
For the attacks on the airbases, Russia, like us and other nations have their own satellites. DetroitLegalBeagle 16 hrs ago #30
Thanks for the follow up. yellow dahlia 16 hrs ago #31
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