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Igel

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18. The trouble with Wiki isn't that it spouts false information on a regular basis.
Sun Mar 29, 2026, 12:33 PM
20 hrs ago

Some things slip through but often enough they get caught if they're important enough to be noticed. (Tree octopus or the Goa war notwithstanding.)

The problem with Wiki is that on some topics info is left out entirely and that skews the takeaway. I remember reading up on a topic (and exploring some of the links) in Wiki. Then summer '20 I went back and the article was different--it had been expurgated of anything that prevented one particular view from being presented without challenge or doubt, and claims were cited (with references) but the former discussion of the claims as being first made 30 years after the fact, being implausible and only from one source (each) gave the impression that the unlikely claims were verified fact.

Some topics in Wiki are excellent--but they tend to be harshly scientific where the culture is that your argument must take into account other arguments and try to ID unresolved issues with your own. (Because if you don't somebody else will revel in un-deluding you.) Otherwise, the more political/controversial the topic the more skeptical you need to be and the more you need to know before you make a judgment about what the Wiki says.

AI both hallucinates and omits stuff. If you don't already know more than the Chatbutt exudes, you're quite possibly going to know wrong stuff that you'll have to unlearn before you can become more education.

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Its a loaded gun, given to a child. Swede 21 hrs ago #1
AI is simply a change accelerant to make the wealthy wealthier more quickly Tim S 21 hrs ago #2
Best explanation of it I've heard so far Walleye 21 hrs ago #3
Except this time genxlib 20 hrs ago #10
Elon Musk promises an age of abundance thought crime 19 hrs ago #23
Elitist billionaires... Safe as Milk 18 hrs ago #53
I believe he said that is one possible path genxlib 18 hrs ago #57
Even Elmo doesn't know what he has in mind. paleotn 17 hrs ago #70
Oh dear lord. Not this shit again. paleotn 17 hrs ago #64
I hope you are right genxlib 16 hrs ago #73
We already have near humanoid robots... paleotn 16 hrs ago #75
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Well, that describes the market. thought crime 19 hrs ago #37
Yup. orangecrush 19 hrs ago #46
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I'd take one of these leftstreet 21 hrs ago #5
Of course, that video was made with AI thought crime 19 hrs ago #26
How about AI is like fire, and has to be controlled FullySupportDems 21 hrs ago #6
Exactly. anciano 21 hrs ago #7
I agree. But it has to have some (considerable regulatory) constraints hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #8
A LOT of constraints! n/t Safe as Milk 18 hrs ago #56
Seems like a... 2naSalit 20 hrs ago #9
It's much better and safer than Google gulliver 20 hrs ago #11
I have yet to find a single AI summary which is accurate. Ms. Toad 20 hrs ago #15
It's better for the AI to tell you about your symptoms than Google gulliver 20 hrs ago #16
It is absolutely NOT better for AI to tell you about your symptoms than Google Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #76
The trouble with Wiki isn't that it spouts false information on a regular basis. Igel 20 hrs ago #18
Agreed - but it took me until the last paragraph to get the AI connection. Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #79
I've found many accurate responses from AI summary thought crime 19 hrs ago #28
Those AI overviews are stealing traffic from the websites they stole the information from, and the highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #35
And you've fact checked every bit of its response? Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #78
A Substantial Majority Of The Time... ProfessorGAC 15 hrs ago #89
A coworker used AI to get a second opinion from his doctor's. Shermann 19 hrs ago #41
I have a long history of correcting doctors with independent research. Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #81
Anthropic Claude is very accurate. milestogo 19 hrs ago #42
It still hallucinates. All genAI models do. It can hallucinate at any time, and for that reason its highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #47
Define accurate. paleotn 17 hrs ago #65
I haven't specifically checked it myself - Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #77
And current LLMs do exactly the same thing as Google search or YouTube algorithms. You just don't realize it. paleotn 17 hrs ago #66
While I agree, in principle as to the possibilities for it's use, Ms. Toad 20 hrs ago #12
"AI relies on the stolen works of humans (art and writing)..." mike_c 15 hrs ago #86
Without planning and guardrails... Happy Hoosier 20 hrs ago #13
AI doesn't concern me as much... biocube 20 hrs ago #14
You aren't wrong ... BUT KentuckyWoman 20 hrs ago #17
Of course it is, Disaffected 20 hrs ago #19
If you mean generative AI, the kind most hyped now, it's badly flawed tech based on stolen intellectual property, highplainsdem 20 hrs ago #20
Very true statement mgardener 19 hrs ago #21
Absolutely. It's a key tool of production. David__77 19 hrs ago #22
It works - to the extent it works when it's mindless and will always hallucinate - only because of IP theft. highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #29
I guess that depends on one's view of "intellectual property". David__77 19 hrs ago #32
The AI companies who felt they had a right to take everyone else's IP have been quick to scream if highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #40
That's absolutely true and on a certain level funny to see. David__77 16 hrs ago #82
I'm in favor of creatives owning their intellectual property, and that right being protected. It's as highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #84
That can certainly be adjudicated as with any other property issue. David__77 15 hrs ago #85
Legal judgments aren't always ethical, as everyone here is aware. Creatives and those who support highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #87
A.I. got us Donald Trump in 2024. Nuff said. Botany 19 hrs ago #24
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AI is the devil. We think we can control it, but we can't. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #25
Devil with the Blue Dress? She's the Devil in disguise? thought crime 19 hrs ago #31
The problem is not a fork or a knife, the problem is who has it in their hand...An assassin with a knife is very Escurumbele 19 hrs ago #27
"Guns aren't the problem..." ? thought crime 19 hrs ago #33
An accurate analogy, however dlk 19 hrs ago #30
I agree. I've been saying this about computers for decades. However, I think most of us agree that IA should be Martin68 19 hrs ago #34
I think it sound like a scream.AAAAA.IIIIII... MiHale 19 hrs ago #36
The problem is not how we use it, Mblaze 19 hrs ago #38
The most critical word is "you" -- meaning WHO? Martin Eden 19 hrs ago #39
If it were only looked as a fork Javaman 19 hrs ago #43
We are about to FAFO on AI. LudwigPastorius 19 hrs ago #44
True, AI by itself is benign. The companies controlling it, however, are not. tinrobot 19 hrs ago #45
hmmm...almost 50 replies and no interaction... ret5hd 19 hrs ago #48
I sometimes stir a pot in the kitchen and then walk away until dinner is served Soul_of_Wit 17 hrs ago #60
Don't see how that's "stirring the pot" ABC123Easy 18 hrs ago #50
I do agree with you there. One of my smartest friends, a tech professional, thinks like Joinformill. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #55
It's a tool for the billionaire overlords, not for us FakeNoose 18 hrs ago #51
Where was our blue ribbon commission prior to its release. Prairie_Seagull 18 hrs ago #52
AI can be rejected - and should be, by ethical, smart people who have any choice in the matter. highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #59
Granted that using genAI is optional and can be rejected..... anciano 17 hrs ago #62
It's genAI being hyped and used most widely. Which is why people need to know about how harmful highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #63
The sole cat I ever had agreed with you. Prairie_Seagull 16 hrs ago #83
Not like a fork: like a cruise missle with a spork instead of a warhead. JustABozoOnThisBus 18 hrs ago #54
Two huge negatives, both related to human nature Soul_of_Wit 18 hrs ago #58
In addition, we need... cornball 24 17 hrs ago #61
And using AI harms human intelligence. See this thread on yet another article about that: highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #67
That's very simple Renew Deal 17 hrs ago #68
Sadly, few people are fully able to tell when AI provides facts or fallacies. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #69
This is absolutely true! Oneironaut 17 hrs ago #71
AI differs from a fork in that a fork does not PufPuf23 17 hrs ago #72
americans can't be trusted with sharp objects bigtree 16 hrs ago #74
AI cannot replace humans Progressive dog 16 hrs ago #80
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