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In reply to the discussion: New York polls are full of warnings for Chuck Schumer [View all]angrychair
(12,335 posts)32. All due respect
In my opinion, that is a self-defeating approach.
It's not "navelgazing backbiting" to hold the leaders of our political Party to higher standards and to question their actions and motives and to demand more from them than the status quo.
I would also take exception with the analysis that Democrats are doing better in elections because of Chuck Schumer's leadership. You are going to have to prove that to me with facts.
Because right now, as far as I can tell and as far as polling has revealed so far, Democrats are mostly winning because people are voting against Republicans more than for Democrats.
That's not my opinion, that is according to the most recent polling.
CNNs Harry Enten, in a recent analysis of polling data, found Democrats have a net favorability of five points. And thats well below what their rating was in previous midterm elections when a Republican was in the White House: eight points in 2018 and 11 points in 2006.
We cannot win on a "we hate Trump" campaign and expect that to carry us. It just won't.
I don't doubt that Schumer is a good person and has the best intentions but his perspective feels stuck in the 80s or 90s when it still felt like bipartisanship was a thing but the Republican Party is a fascist cult only loyal to Mango Mussolini.
I believe that unwavering push for bipartisanship at any cost was a factor in Democratic turnout in 2024 and in past recent elections in which more people didn't vote than voted.
I'm totally down with Schumer IF he will show a material push for a more aggressive approach and stops gate keeping by making it twice as hard for Progressive candidates like Mamdani or AOC or Frost like candidates to get official DNC support and endorsements from Party leaders (and I don't mean just a written endorsement two days before the election).
My concern for our Party is that some, including many in leadership roles, seem more welcoming to Republicans to come to the Party than they do for Progressives or Democratic Socialists especially.
People do not want more of the same. They want real change and a completely different approach to how we see and deal with Republicans.
But unless he can demonstrate that willingness to change, if a primary candidate, potentially AOC, can convince people she can deliver that, then more people are going to vote for her as they should.
I will always vote for a Democrat but that doesn't mean that if a primary candidate presented a better case that I'm not going to vote for them over an incumbent that has not shown that willingness to be better.
(Perfect example of that is the failure to pass a bill making Roe v Wade the actual law of the land when they controlled the House, Senate and WH)
Sorry for being so long winded but I'm trying very hard to make the point that it's not about not supporting Democrats, it's about supporting Democrats that will fight to make real, material changes and hold Republicans accountable for everything they have done over the last 10 years.
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We need strong leaders who are willing to step up and fight the good fight for our democracy
Grim Chieftain
Thursday
#25
Well, I've been in a brawl where people were hurt. It sucks. It was at a political meeting.
LeftInTX
Friday
#36
He's not right for this period in our history, IMO. I'd be thrilled to be able to vote for someone else (Democratic).
Crunchy Frog
Thursday
#6
If AOC wins his seat, she will not be senate minority or senate majority leader.
LeftInTX
Thursday
#8
Haven't heard much about Gillibrand lately...She would then be the senior senator from New York.
LeftInTX
Thursday
#12
I'm not one of the people obsessing on this as if he's some sort of obstacle to anything
bigtree
Thursday
#24