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angrychair

(12,335 posts)
32. All due respect
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 03:14 PM
Thursday

In my opinion, that is a self-defeating approach.
It's not "navelgazing backbiting" to hold the leaders of our political Party to higher standards and to question their actions and motives and to demand more from them than the status quo.

I would also take exception with the analysis that Democrats are doing better in elections because of Chuck Schumer's leadership. You are going to have to prove that to me with facts.
Because right now, as far as I can tell and as far as polling has revealed so far, Democrats are mostly winning because people are voting against Republicans more than for Democrats.

That's not my opinion, that is according to the most recent polling.

CNN’s Harry Enten, in a recent analysis of polling data, found Democrats’ have a net favorability of five points. And that’s well below what their rating was in previous midterm elections when a Republican was in the White House: eight points in 2018 and 11 points in 2006.


We cannot win on a "we hate Trump" campaign and expect that to carry us. It just won't.

I don't doubt that Schumer is a good person and has the best intentions but his perspective feels stuck in the 80s or 90s when it still felt like bipartisanship was a thing but the Republican Party is a fascist cult only loyal to Mango Mussolini.
I believe that unwavering push for bipartisanship at any cost was a factor in Democratic turnout in 2024 and in past recent elections in which more people didn't vote than voted.

I'm totally down with Schumer IF he will show a material push for a more aggressive approach and stops gate keeping by making it twice as hard for Progressive candidates like Mamdani or AOC or Frost like candidates to get official DNC support and endorsements from Party leaders (and I don't mean just a written endorsement two days before the election).

My concern for our Party is that some, including many in leadership roles, seem more welcoming to Republicans to come to the Party than they do for Progressives or Democratic Socialists especially.
People do not want more of the same. They want real change and a completely different approach to how we see and deal with Republicans.

But unless he can demonstrate that willingness to change, if a primary candidate, potentially AOC, can convince people she can deliver that, then more people are going to vote for her as they should.
I will always vote for a Democrat but that doesn't mean that if a primary candidate presented a better case that I'm not going to vote for them over an incumbent that has not shown that willingness to be better.
(Perfect example of that is the failure to pass a bill making Roe v Wade the actual law of the land when they controlled the House, Senate and WH)

Sorry for being so long winded but I'm trying very hard to make the point that it's not about not supporting Democrats, it's about supporting Democrats that will fight to make real, material changes and hold Republicans accountable for everything they have done over the last 10 years.


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Best news I've heard all day. BannonsLiver Thursday #1
I've been calling for him to step down for years. Intractable Thursday #2
I always compare minority leadership with Pelosi like in the Covid pandemic ALBliberal Thursday #3
Democrats are in desperate need of new leadership. dalton99a Thursday #4
We need strong leaders who are willing to step up and fight the good fight for our democracy Grim Chieftain Thursday #25
Leadership is mostly a procedural position that focuses on order and decoram. LeftInTX Thursday #28
Leadership is a lot more than that Mysterian Thursday #35
Well, I've been in a brawl where people were hurt. It sucks. It was at a political meeting. LeftInTX Friday #36
just elect a Democrat bigtree Thursday #5
Exactly LeftInTX Thursday #10
Bravo! Democratic self-sabotage needs to stop. comradebillyboy Thursday #11
Your last sentence is undoubtedly true. BannonsLiver Thursday #30
most critics believe their projections are superior to reality bigtree Thursday #34
I don't think any human is infallable. comradebillyboy Friday #40
I wasn't talking about you. BannonsLiver Friday #43
All due respect angrychair Thursday #32
Thank you. Your response was better than mine would've been. nt druidity33 Friday #38
Thank you Ziggy Beans Friday #39
Kudos to our leadership! Hassin Bin Sober Friday #41
I feel like this is sarcasm Ziggy Beans Friday #42
He's not right for this period in our history, IMO. I'd be thrilled to be able to vote for someone else (Democratic). Crunchy Frog Thursday #6
He is now 75, it is time for him to retire so younger women & men irisblue Thursday #7
If AOC wins his seat, she will not be senate minority or senate majority leader. LeftInTX Thursday #8
the benefits to NY from a senior member of the Senate are immeasurable bigtree Thursday #9
Haven't heard much about Gillibrand lately...She would then be the senior senator from New York. LeftInTX Thursday #12
If Schumer retires in 28 SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #14
right bigtree Thursday #19
Klobuchar is running for governor. Fiendish Thingy Thursday #16
Dick Durbin is retiring JustAnotherGen Friday #37
I keep reading "New York Dolls" Coventina Thursday #13
lol bigtree Thursday #21
Schumer will be 78 in 28 SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #15
He will, one way or another. Nt Fiendish Thingy Thursday #17
like Bernie? Skittles Thursday #33
He will retire in 2028 Fiendish Thingy Thursday #18
by choice, I'd think bigtree Thursday #20
Let's hope so. Nt Fiendish Thingy Thursday #23
I'm not one of the people obsessing on this as if he's some sort of obstacle to anything bigtree Thursday #24
I think this should allow for a gracious exit fujiyamasan Thursday #22
it's funny how the 'new era' seems to be fraught with so much uncertainty and regression bigtree Thursday #26
'You've got to know when to fold 'em..' Joinfortmill Thursday #27
No Tom Hagan now Pesky1 Thursday #29
He benefitted greatly from standing next to Nancy for so many years. Scrivener7 Thursday #31
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