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hlthe2b

(114,108 posts)
21. Unfortunately when things drop at this rate we may see a repeat of the whole Al Franken debacle
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 09:13 PM
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when the RW blew up a far less serious issue--aided by our own- and left him unable to quickly respond before the narrative was written in stone. Not to mention, Franken is a genuinely decent man who, even if a comedic stunt was taken out of context, felt guilt and thus proceeded out of a sense of honor.

Yes, I'm taken by Swalwell denying all. And, times have changed for women in terms of how they look at sexual encounters when they were inebriated and society has (in many cases) supported women's accusations of sexual assault when they were seriously inebriated. In my college days, there would have been zero support for claiming nonconsensual sex after-the-fact after consuming (voluntarily) enough alcohol to render oneself incapacitated. Most of the women in my circles that I went to school with would have taken their own responsibility for anything but truly coercive (or violent) sex as a lesson about alcohol--especially looking back years later. But today with the several drugs that can be administered without consent, we rightfully look at this differently. And, of course there can be a violable line with alcohol as well.

But I am really uncomfortable with the rate at which this is progressing. Even IF Swalwell was innocent, there may not be realistic time to fight back and avoid the rapidly falling dominoes. Public sentiment is just too quick to harden.

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This is bad news we didn't need. Gaugamela Friday #1
One less candidate in that crowded governor's race? tinrobot Friday #42
So within an hour of a breaking news accusation, the dominoes are dropping at ballistic speed. hlthe2b Friday #2
I'm also keeping an open mind. Haggard Celine Friday #13
Unfortunately when things drop at this rate we may see a repeat of the whole Al Franken debacle hlthe2b Friday #21
All 4 women say he send them nudes, well release them krawhitham Friday #27
i believe they said he was doing that on snapchat orleans Friday #32
Yeah, you're right, it's probably already too late. Haggard Celine Friday #29
Thinking of my own college days, I do remember those same attitudes and culture Alice B. Friday #30
That's the point, isn't it? MorbidButterflyTat Friday #26
whose "point" are you referring to? the 4 women or cnn for publishing the article? orleans Friday #36
More likely Steyer will rise in polls JI7 Friday #31
The Democrats need some candidates to drop out. tinrobot Friday #43
Yikes. Do they know more than the public knows at this point?? tulipsandroses Friday #3
"...the damage may have already been done." mwmisses4289 Friday #10
I agree the timing is fishy. But the speed of which people are abandoning him, makes me wonder if they have seen things tulipsandroses Friday #14
Who should be the Democratic candidate? Swallwell has to drop out. dem4decades Friday #4
Porter and Steyer are each polarizing in their own way. tinrobot Friday #44
I don't know how to feel about this. Frasier Balzov Friday #5
Ok, so let me get this straight... mwmisses4289 Friday #6
I concur. choie Friday #9
I think this is a bit different than Al Franken. tinrobot Friday #45
It makes me wonder if they know something we don't. It seems rather odd that so many are ditching him tulipsandroses Friday #12
Swalwell is my choice............... Lovie777 Friday #7
I'm a Swalwell fan, so I can't believe this is true. choie Friday #8
FFS is right. Eliot Spitzer. Anthony Weiner. Cuomo. John Edwards. lostnfound Friday #18
It's the elixir of power. choie Friday #20
Too many of us 'think' with our penis.... Jack Valentino Friday #38
There must be some hard fact and proof of these allegations FloridaBlues Friday #11
Why oh why did he run not fooled Friday #16
Entitlement, arrogance leftstreet Friday #34
5 women now, one went to hospital after assault, told people BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #17
Been hard fact of proof of trump and his wife, yet here we are MerryBlooms Friday #25
This may crack open the door for Tom Steyer - the non-politician in the race. Sibelius Fan Friday #15
Well, that's unfortunate. But at least it came out before the primary. Ocelot II Friday #19
Some high profile supporters are leaving Swalwell. If he can't make it, which Democrat should garner support? Janbdwl72 Friday #28
Don't think Steyer will get official Dem support. tinrobot Friday #46
The timing of this is suspicious considering how long Swalwell has been in the public eye VMA131Marine Friday #22
Ugliest and most serious would be child molestation RussBLib Friday #23
I was thinking along those lines myself. Haggard Celine Friday #35
Please don't try to diminish the accusations by saying it's just sending a dick pick EdmondDantes_ Friday #41
The speed with which those endorsements were pulled says a lot, and none of it good. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #24
If they are true malaise Friday #33
Always sad to see how quickly #TrustWomen gets thrown under the bus... Lancero Friday #37
Maybe because the timing is too suspicious? mwmisses4289 Saturday #54
"Why'd she wait so long to report it if it's trueeeee!!?!?" is a popular attack against SA victims. Lancero Saturday #56
wow... orleans Friday #39
House leadership bigtree Friday #40
Put a fork in him. He's done. And that pisses me off, i liked the guy dem4decades Friday #47
There are 20 Democrats running in this jungle primary! Only a few are viable. LeftInTX Friday #48
Becerra has been in congress and was CA yorkster Saturday #52
I think I will withold my opinions on this until more evidence comes out. If he is innocent, his lawyer(s) GoodRaisin Friday #49
This is really fishy videohead5 Friday #50
I'm really conflicted on these accusations jmbar2 Saturday #51
Swalwell has always rubbed me the wrong way crimycarny Saturday #53
Insert seriously explicit curse word here. Pacifist Patriot Saturday #55
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