BREAKING: three *more* women have come forward to @cnn.com and accuse Rep. Eric Swalwell of sexual misconduct...

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129. Same here

I respect H20 man and other posters. It took three years for my dad who is an Indian military vet and a decent man and a feminist in any material way, but a bit foul-mouthed (wonder where I get that from ), to finally get that MeToo isn’t about men like him.
His female students and employees have always liked him.

But I just don’t think you can have the same “feel” for this shit without facing harassment as a woman, especially in grey areas, that cannot be reported at all.

That is why where it is at least easy for the truth to confirm it, as it seems to be in this one, I hope the targets get the kind of fair shake many of us have zero hope of.

The Al Franken case was more confusing. I did not buy that one GOP complainant and since I used to like Franken, I admit to not following it much.

And while I did believe Tara Reade, that was a one-off and Biden was running against a serial rapist. I think Biden did a better job on some fronts than he gets credit for.

Sexual harassers usually follow a specific pattern and Biden’s didn’t seem to fit that. There I did wonder about the timing as each case is different. But I still believed Reade because you develop an instinct for these things overtime. Still I overall respect President Biden’s contributions in context. That may have been a one-off. I saw no other allegations against Biden to indicate the sort of pattern of indecency and really shameful lack of self control plus entitlement that fuels some of these men.

It is possible to hold complicated views in a situation as dire as the US Presidency and still believe Reade, be uncertain about the Franken case, and believe all the credible (i.e. not doctored ai images - I saw one reference to that wrt Trump on Snopes) allegations against Trump, Gaetz, Cuomo and now Swalwell.

I never liked Swalwell.

I am pretty zero tolerance on creepiness and sexual harassment as a permanently slandered as schizophrenic pot user, with a tendency to swear and crack bad jokes and no serious hope of a reprieve unless I agree to shady shit I will not agree to.

I live in grey areas and handle them better than many at great personal and professional cost without absurd levels of faux purity.

It is the price of a clean conscience with the unhappiness of ostracism. After 14-16 years of this shit, I have no wish to rejoin society beyond ungraciously doing the bare minimum for societies, systems and people I unabashedly hate.

Though I have a small network of trust mostly from before 2011 or a few since like my oncologist or medical mj doctor.

These are uncomfortable topics only if you care about what people think in the worst ways.

These women seem screwed over not transactional. It is never easy to come forward in these societies and I support them, as much as I support every Trump accuser from E Jeanne to the 13 yo whom Trump tried to force oral sex from. I hope Trump gets held accountable for that and I believe Swalwell’s accusers.

I care about not being a bully or performatively pure plus actually shady and transactional.
Oh well..