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Ocelot II

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30. And since then many of them have said they regretted it.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:03 PM
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A remarkable number of Franken’s Senate colleagues have regrets about their own roles in his fall. Seven current and former U.S. senators who demanded Franken’s resignation in 2017 told me that they’d been wrong to do so. Such admissions are unusual in an institution whose members rarely concede mistakes. Patrick Leahy, the veteran Democrat from Vermont, said that his decision to seek Franken’s resignation without first getting all the facts was “one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made” in forty-five years in the Senate. Heidi Heitkamp, the former senator from North Dakota, told me, “If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation. It was made in the heat of the moment, without concern for exactly what this was.” Tammy Duckworth, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, told me that the Senate Ethics Committee “should have been allowed to move forward.” She said it was important to acknowledge the trauma that Franken’s accusers had gone through, but added, “We needed more facts. That due process didn’t happen is not good for our democracy.” Angus King, the Independent senator from Maine, said that he’d “regretted it ever since” he joined the call for Franken’s resignation. “There’s no excuse for sexual assault,” he said. “But Al deserved more of a process. I don’t denigrate the allegations, but this was the political equivalent of capital punishment.” Senator Jeff Merkley, of Oregon, told me, “This was a rush to judgment that didn’t allow any of us to fully explore what this was about. I took the judgment of my peers rather than independently examining the circumstances. In my heart, I’ve not felt right about it.” Bill Nelson, the former Florida senator, said, “I realized almost right away I’d made a mistake. I felt terrible. I should have stood up for due process to render what it’s supposed to—the truth.” Tom Udall, the senior Democratic senator from New Mexico, said, “I made a mistake. I started having second thoughts shortly after he stepped down. He had the right to be heard by an independent investigative body. I’ve heard from people around my state, and around the country, saying that they think he got railroaded. It doesn’t seem fair. I’m a lawyer. I really believe in due process.”

Former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, who watched the drama unfold from retirement, told me, “It’s terrible what happened to him. It was unfair. It took the legs out from under him. He was a very fine senator.” Many voters have also protested Franken’s decision. A Change.org petition urging Franken to retract his resignation received more than seventy-five thousand signatures. It declared, “There’s a difference between abuse and a mistake.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

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Kirsten Gillibrand [View all] milestogo Saturday OP
Absolutely! The Swalwell issue stinks of repuke rat fuckery. SheltieLover Saturday #1
Even Al called for a Senate Ethics committee ivestigation. ProudMNDemocrat Saturday #2
Tony dropped out. There is talk of kicking him out of congress. LeftInTX Saturday #24
The 'allegations" against Franken were nothing compared to Swalwell. What Gillebrand and others Nanjeanne Saturday #3
The allegations are serious. milestogo Saturday #8
The "allegations against Franken were nothing, period. ananda Saturday #18
False. Why do Franken defenders continue to say that? EdmondDantes_ Saturday #19
Read this, and please be honest about it. Ocelot II Saturday #28
I've read it in the past. It didn't change anything for me EdmondDantes_ Saturday #39
Mob mentality Bluetus Saturday #45
One of the alleged incidents occurred in 2024, but of course all of the accusations Ocelot II Saturday #46
Would you acknowledge any of these 4 things? Bluetus Saturday #53
Any of those things are possible, which is why a thorough investigation is needed. Ocelot II Saturday #54
These things don't get better with time, though... OhioBack2Blue Sunday #59
Thank you for this! niyad Sunday #56
Franken Cirsium Saturday #29
I mostly agree with you but not entirely jfz9580m Saturday #50
Yes exactly. Nanjeanne Saturday #31
Don't forget Roger Stone. vanlassie Sunday #60
She was one of many SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #4
Who was one of many what? Amaryllis Saturday #9
39 Senators SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #11
Thank you! Amaryllis Saturday #12
They just KNEW if they played nice and canned Franken then Republicans Bengus81 Saturday #13
You speak of playing nice, footballs. Games, teams, and jerseys. R vs. B Maru Kitteh Saturday #37
And since then many of them have said they regretted it. Ocelot II Saturday #30
So? SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #32
How do you know the other 32 didn't also regret it? Ocelot II Saturday #33
I don't SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #34
no reason to think that they don't, either Skittles Saturday #43
Is there evidence SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #47
I don't see Chuck Schumer on this list - WTF? FakeNoose Saturday #14
Schumer probably directed things SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #22
SHE LED THE WAY Skittles Saturday #17
same here. nt orleans Saturday #20
By less than 5 minutes SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #21
editing Skittles Saturday #25
You are entitled to your opinion SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #27
aren't they all? Skittles Saturday #36
Some are more supported by facts than others. EdmondDantes_ Saturday #40
I never said she was alone, I said she LED THE WAY Skittles Saturday #41
No its not SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #48
well like you said THAT'S YOUR OPINION Skittles Saturday #51
No. SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #52
Again by a handful of minutes and it was organized within the party EdmondDantes_ Sunday #61
I'd rather have Tina Smith, thanks. She's been fantastic. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #5
No and they won't. Autumn Saturday #6
Who won't what ? Indefinite pronouns. Cant tell what your references refer to. Amaryllis Saturday #10
+1000 aeromanKC Saturday #7
The whole conservative establishment in the party has to go LiberalLovinLug Saturday #15
Hear, hear! ZDU Saturday #26
Good memory! ABC123Easy Saturday #16
Why isn't the responsibility on the man who had 8 accusers? EdmondDantes_ Saturday #23
Why can't believing them and still not wanting him thrown out be an option? Polybius Saturday #38
I admit I didn't think anyone would say he groped a bunch of women and it's not a fireable offense as an option EdmondDantes_ Saturday #42
But he didn't do it on the job, it was alleged to have been years ago Polybius Saturday #44
One of his accusers SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #49
Thanks for reminding us of something that happened 8 years ago. tinrobot Saturday #35
I'm with you! Faux pas Sunday #55
KNR and bookmarking for later. niyad Sunday #57
she got played. pansypoo53219 Sunday #58
Overdoing the sweetie-pie/tough-guy stuff gulliver Sunday #62
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