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pat_k

(13,960 posts)
30. The distinction is between Christian Nationalism and Christianity.
Wed May 27, 2026, 04:51 PM
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The difference is between having personal beliefs others may vehemently disagree with, and seeking to impose those beliefs as a matter of law.

And that is the simple definition of a Christian Nationalist: People who are committed to passing laws that impose their PERSONAL religious beliefs on Americans who DO NOT SHARE those beliefs. Seeking to pass such laws is both deeply Un-Christian and Un-American.

What is SERIOUSLY problematic is overgeneralizing or using the label "Christian" when what you are talking about and objecting to is Christian Nationalism.

Frankly, just being a racist does not cross a red line in America. Each of us has a right to hold hatreds, personal animosities, or other awful beliefs in our hearts. (Just as we have a right to hold more benevolent, compassionate beliefs). Where the red line is crossed is when people break the law to harm or discriminate, or they empoy the levers of governmental power, whether judicial, legislative, or executive, to implement those personal beliefs as a matter of enforceable public policy. Doing that is an intolerable violation of constitutional moral principles.

And I don't think there is anyone who does a better job of speaking out against Christian Nationalism -- speaking against the cancer on Christianity that Christian Nationalism represents -- than James Talarico.




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Yes! leftieNanner Yesterday #1
Yes, he must do many things at once senseandsensibility Yesterday #3
It's a big ask of anyone peggysue2 Yesterday #41
Kick dalton99a Yesterday #2
It is also important he confronts MAGA christianity about their bastardization of Christianity. travelingthrulife Yesterday #4
I'm not particularly religious so maybe I'm not a good judge senseandsensibility Yesterday #5
Agreed. I am not religious either. His voice is important. travelingthrulife 8 hrs ago #87
The distinction is between Christian Nationalism and Christianity. pat_k Yesterday #30
That is a must-see for clarity. Festivito 23 hrs ago #65
That sermon put him on my radar at the end of 2023. pat_k 21 hrs ago #67
They aren't all Christian Nationalists though, many just have a really hateful interpretation travelingthrulife 8 hrs ago #88
If they have no interest in discriminating or reshaping law in accord with their beliefs, they aren't violating... pat_k 6 hrs ago #91
My thoughts exactly. That's why I've thought that Talarico was particularly needed at this time. summer_in_TX Yesterday #42
This is great. I want to share with my fundie Trump lovers in my family. But its way too small to read for them LiberalLovinLug 3 hrs ago #94
Here's a larger image. summer_in_TX 13 min ago #95
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