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wnylib

(26,528 posts)
54. There's a bit more to it.
Wed May 27, 2026, 06:30 PM
15 hrs ago

For decades, the RW politicians told people that their problems were due to liberal ideas. While the right was shifting money towards to themselves on tax breaks, busting unions, and catering to stockholders the financial costs of governing fell to the middle and working classes. Then RW pols told people that their lower incomes and higher costs were caused by immigrants, and by the govt costs of desegregation, regulatory laws on businesses, people receiving SS and Medicare, and poor people getting SNAP benefits.

We needed to listen to the complaints of people whose incomes were not rising while costs were. Then share their concerns and show them what was really behind their problems and what we would do to make things better for them.

We stood up for the rights of the people that they had learned to blame, and that was the right thing to do. But I think that we did not go far enough in showing them how the RW pols were causing the problems. We criticized RW pols for racism, xenophobia about immigrants, and the lack of character in people like Trump, but did not show clearly enough how the right was blaming certain groups for what the right was actually doing.

I remember bringing that up at a local Dem headquarters while phone banking for Obama in 2008. A couple volunteers did not understand what I said about wealthy tax breaks shifting costs to people on the economic ladder below them. I had to give examples and was surprised that Dem volunteers had not been aware of it. Imagine what RW voters did not know and needed to hear.

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Yes! leftieNanner 18 hrs ago #1
Yes, he must do many things at once senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #3
It's a big ask of anyone peggysue2 16 hrs ago #41
Kick dalton99a 18 hrs ago #2
It is also important he confronts MAGA christianity about their bastardization of Christianity. travelingthrulife 18 hrs ago #4
I'm not particularly religious so maybe I'm not a good judge senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #5
The distinction is between Christian Nationalism and Christianity. pat_k 16 hrs ago #30
That is a must-see for clarity. Festivito 13 hrs ago #65
That sermon put him on my radar at the end of 2023. pat_k 12 hrs ago #67
My thoughts exactly. That's why I've thought that Talarico was particularly needed at this time. summer_in_TX 16 hrs ago #42
Trump needed no defining leftstreet 18 hrs ago #6
Magas are and were a lost cause senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #7
No. "MAGA" is mainly about 30 million Bluetus 18 hrs ago #11
Good points senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #12
I would say Obama was elected to bring us a public option in healthcare questionseverything 17 hrs ago #22
But he hedged so much about it that he had no mandate. Bluetus 16 hrs ago #33
That's not true Mad_Machine76 15 hrs ago #50
That is not my recollection Bluetus 14 hrs ago #58
Here's a link from Wikipedia that appears to support my recollection of events Mad_Machine76 14 hrs ago #59
I don't deny that Lieberman screwed the pooch Bluetus 14 hrs ago #62
I believe, however, that it was near the end of the passage of the ACA Mad_Machine76 13 hrs ago #64
I am sure the truth lies somewhere in that region. Politics can be very ugly Bluetus 12 hrs ago #66
Disagree questionseverything 14 hrs ago #61
I still genuinely believe if the Dems had RAMMED Medicare for all Americans through in 2009, we never PatrickforB 16 hrs ago #36
The biggest problem is that we pay into Medicare throughout our spooky3 11 hrs ago #72
Nah, with all due respect, your post would have us all dancing at the end of the same string. PatrickforB 9 hrs ago #76
I suggest that you do some reading on the problems in our health care spooky3 9 hrs ago #78
+1 leftstreet 17 hrs ago #23
Not this again... lame54 16 hrs ago #43
+a zillion nt spooky3 11 hrs ago #71
Opportunity economy, middle class, small business, first-time house buyer subsidy, corporate price gouging, betsuni 9 hrs ago #77
FDR who said... mountain grammy 46 min ago #84
I thought Kamala ran an excellent campaign PatSeg 18 hrs ago #8
I remember marveling at how good Kamala was during the debates senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #10
I agree that gender was against her PatSeg 15 hrs ago #52
You have to draw contrasts Bluetus 16 hrs ago #35
Except I would get rid of the 'fight hard' clause. My email box and mobile text fills up every day with dozens PatrickforB 16 hrs ago #40
Good point. Bluetus 14 hrs ago #56
Sorry for,having to say this, but.... reACTIONary 12 hrs ago #70
Maybe not the best strategy SomedayKindaLove 2 hrs ago #79
Step one for Congress is heal thyself (insider trading is legal?!) Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #48
Yes, as long as the examples are totally legitimate PatSeg 14 hrs ago #55
IDK Lemon Lyman 18 hrs ago #9
They needed to speak more about what what people needed wnylib 16 hrs ago #24
Picking a convicted felon over competency is entirely because of not solving issues like housing and affordability (n/m) Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #49
There's a bit more to it. wnylib 15 hrs ago #54
Here is exactly what I was talking about. wnylib 13 hrs ago #63
do not forget the double standard Skittles 18 hrs ago #13
Yes, in many ways that is the elephant in the room senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #14
she always had to avoid looking like the "angry black woman" Skittles 17 hrs ago #17
It is a fact. Do we want to have our principles or do we want to win some elections so we can make these things right? Bluetus 16 hrs ago #38
The one (principles) does not deny the other (victory) Torchlight 15 hrs ago #47
It has so far. Bluetus 14 hrs ago #57
Three key failures that were incredibly frustrating to watch. pat_k 17 hrs ago #15
Kamala's problem was she was a woman. Just saying, people. Joinfortmill 17 hrs ago #16
Like it or not, negative ads and action works. Good for him. NNadir 17 hrs ago #18
Kamala should have challenged TSF to a polygraph test in the debates. Rhiagel 17 hrs ago #19
I worked for an attorney The Wizard 16 hrs ago #34
Research on polygraphs shows they are not sufficiently reliable, eg, see spooky3 11 hrs ago #74
He knew his client was lying to him The Wizard 1 hr ago #83
Nailed it orangecrush 17 hrs ago #20
The only reason Harris lost is that she isn't a white male. ananda 17 hrs ago #21
Thank you. /nt spudspud 16 hrs ago #26
Yeah. I can hear the complaints from the always anti-Democrat morons: Zelda_Orchid 16 hrs ago #27
Running for the Senate MineralMan 16 hrs ago #25
He is also being a white male... displacedvermoter 16 hrs ago #28
Every Democrat running for office needs to blast the republicOn party KS Toronado 16 hrs ago #29
Can we please not do this? Politicub 16 hrs ago #31
In LBJ's first run for Congress he The Wizard 16 hrs ago #32
Wow senseandsensibility 16 hrs ago #37
More corrupt than Trump? lame54 16 hrs ago #39
You don't define an opponent with a single interview. RandySF 15 hrs ago #44
I am not sure one can ever define an opponent especially one as creepy as his. Best to just constantly define yourself. efhmc 11 hrs ago #73
what she absolutely did not do that cost her votes yobrault1 15 hrs ago #45
Democrats need to be better at multitasking Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #46
The DNC could learn something from this guy gay texan 15 hrs ago #51
Last night, Paxton broke out every stereotype from the Trump book he could find. ificandream 15 hrs ago #53
I see.... sheshe2 14 hrs ago #60
Ummm... Unca Jim 12 hrs ago #68
She called Trump an "unhinged and unstable" fascist ... oh wait, it's Kamala the Invisible, like all the betsuni 12 hrs ago #69
Lawrence asked a repuke style question painting Rep Talarico with the pro trans kids brush. Tbear 10 hrs ago #75
What? He isn't a Black woman? ananda 2 hrs ago #80
Its called branding Historic NY 2 hrs ago #81
I don't know, in those debates she pasted Trump pretty good bucolic_frolic 1 hr ago #82
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