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Jedi Guy

(3,517 posts)
41. Disclaimer: I don't live in Maine so my vote doesn't make a damn bit of difference here. Let's get that out of the way.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:55 AM
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Now that we've got that out of the way, Platner's candidacy - and the reaction to these revelations about his past - are pretty troubling to me. Because let's all be very real here: if this were anyone else, no one would be minimizing his whoops-didn't-know-it-was-a-Nazi-tattoo excuse and no one would be hand-waving away the reports about his past behavior towards women.

The sexting and drinking I don't care so much about as long as the former was between consenting adults. If we immediately nixed anyone with peccadillos and a drinking problem from public office the halls of Congress would be very, very quiet indeed.

What I find troubling is that a lot of people seem okay with jettisoning certain values out of convenience and/or a desire to capture the Senate. They're okay with a very flimsy "aw shucks, I didn't know" excuse about a literal Nazi tattoo and content to shrug off reports of borderline-violent behavior towards women that would draw immediate and visceral condemnation if the guy in question wasn't running for Senate in a hotly contested midterm election cycle.

The thing about values is that they can be very slippery. It's easy to subjectively shift them to fit the conveniences and needs of the moment. If a value is truly, deeply held one will remain true to it even (perhaps especially) when doing so carries a cost. And if that value shifts to allow for that moment of convenience, it comes across a lot like that value wasn't all that important to begin with.

I understand the importance of capturing the Senate in the midterms. I get that control of both houses of Congress is key to defanging Trump's agenda for the remainder of his term. I'm just not certain that abandoning certain values is a cost that's worth the price because once those values start slipping away it'll get easier and easier to compromise them when convenient or necessary.

Just my view from the outside looking in.

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The Seasaw with Graham Platner [View all] Chasstev365 Friday OP
8 different women accusing Franken wasn't a hit EdmondDantes_ Friday #1
You are making astute and accurate comments. Irish_Dem Friday #5
Hit job. . AloeVera Friday #25
total f*cking hit job DoBW Friday #65
Eight women, some of whom made ridiculous mzmolly Friday #70
Yup. lostincalifornia Friday #79
It helps to listen to him talk policy Ziggy Beans Friday #2
I particularly like the Stewart interview al bupp Friday #81
Agreed ABC123Easy Friday #3
"Are these Nazis in the room with you right now?" Emile Friday #4
Not that I'm aware of ABC123Easy Friday #6
No, but if we had a drink every time you posted about a Nazi tattoo, Emile Friday #9
I doubt ABC123Easy Friday #14
I salute your liver's dedication to your cause. Emile Friday #19
Thank you ABC123Easy Friday #20
Hang in there.... FarPoint Friday #37
Thank you ABC123Easy Friday #42
Some people are getting drunk on trolling n/t Just_Vote_Dem Friday #18
Some people are yes ABC123Easy Friday #21
Yes you can. BannonsLiver Friday #49
Feeling ABC123Easy Friday #53
Forum rules against bashing Democratic candidates. mr715 Friday #60
I'm aware of all of that. ABC123Easy Friday #61
Am I making a threat? mr715 Friday #62
I took that as a threat, yes ABC123Easy Friday #63
I'm explicitly stating I would not. mr715 Friday #64
I've ABC123Easy Friday #66
I apologize if I gave the impression I am attacking you. mr715 Friday #67
Thank you. ABC123Easy Friday #68
Gosh, I had no idea what a Nazi Tattoo was. Chasstev365 Friday #29
Thanks for admitting you wouldn't vote for a Democrat Just_Vote_Dem Friday #7
This is a Democratic Messaging board? ABC123Easy Friday #11
He has not been nominated yet. LisaL Friday #30
The Primary is still in contest FarPoint Friday #38
Yes, and I would vote for Mills, Platner, or any other Democrat nominated Just_Vote_Dem Friday #40
And you ignore the consequences of having Susan Collins voting in the Senate rather than Plattner NoRethugFriends Friday #8
So you you ignore the consequences of having Nazi sympathizers in the US Senate? ABC123Easy Friday #17
Millions. LisaL Friday #31
Agreed ABC123Easy Friday #34
That's so stupid!!! nt LAS14 Friday #47
I agree ABC123Easy Friday #52
So, you ARE OK with six more years of Susan Collins? MineralMan Friday #10
And they think they're fooling people Just_Vote_Dem Friday #12
I know, right? MineralMan Friday #13
Can you explain why a tattoo two people have said he called his totenkopf is funny? EdmondDantes_ Friday #15
No joke. It's a tattoo. MineralMan Friday #16
Weird that you were rolling on the floor laughing if it wasn't a joke EdmondDantes_ Friday #22
Just keep on keeping on, dude... MineralMan Friday #24
The last picture I saw, it looked like the state of Ohio. Emile Friday #23
When this all started and I first saw his tat, I thought " looks like darth vader to me" questionseverything Friday #27
After the story about his Nazi tattoo came into the open, LisaL Friday #28
Excuse me, but who between Platner and Collins has been supporting Nazis? MadameButterfly Friday #69
You're excused? ABC123Easy Friday #71
Usually people are concerned with Nazi tattoos MadameButterfly Friday #72
Okay..... ABC123Easy Friday #73
Sorry, when you said earlier that you "wouldn't" vote for Platner MadameButterfly Friday #75
Well, well ABC123Easy Friday #76
now you are just being intentially obtuse MadameButterfly Friday #78
Hey ABC123Easy Friday #80
You are helping Collins by trying to take support from platner, the only candidate polling well enough to beat Collins questionseverything Friday #77
Look, if you want to vote for a guy with a Nazi tattoo, LisaL Friday #26
Susan Collins represents a deadly cancer to the body that needs immediate removal to have a chance for survival. aeromanKC Friday #32
He has not been nominated yet. LisaL Friday #33
I'm not from Maine, but I would only want the best chance to eliminate Collins. aeromanKC Friday #35
What makes him a best chance? LisaL Friday #36
I was originally for Mills since she had proven she can win statewide race. aeromanKC Friday #39
Disclaimer: I don't live in Maine so my vote doesn't make a damn bit of difference here. Let's get that out of the way. Jedi Guy Friday #41
No one except the MAGA base LAS14 Friday #45
Kind of proves my point, though, doesn't it? Jedi Guy Friday #48
My values. LAS14 Friday #46
"Get real." Jedi Guy Friday #50
Why is it so hard? LAS14 Friday #54
I don't bill myself as a scholar on Nazism but I recognized it as soon as I saw it. Jedi Guy Friday #57
What makes it different from other skulls and crossbones? nt LAS14 Friday #58
I was anti-Platner until the latest ratf*** WSHazel Friday #43
Two possible reactions to the latest Platner news. LAS14 Friday #44
Fuck this shit. CivicGrief Friday #51
Maine here... ExtraGriz Friday #55
+1 Emile Friday #82
Useful Rules for Fielding/Supporting Candidates delisen Friday #56
That and a nickel will get you a CivicGrief Friday #59
Thanks for your response. delisen Friday #74
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