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sarisataka

(22,937 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:00 PM 14 hrs ago

Why is so much effort being spent defending a Nazi symbol? [View all]

I am not talking about a drunk person getting a tattoo that had a meaning they were unaware of. You can believe that or not, it is not germane to my point.

The skull and crossbones has a long history and is used in many contexts even today, e.g. the poison symbol. However the Nazis, particularly the SS, adopted a version of as their symbol; a specific identifiable version.



Now eighty years later not everyone recognizes it anymore; history is a weakness especially in the US. However many people do still recognize it and its history with Nazism. During WW2 it was the symbol millions saw on their guards as they were led to the "showers". Yet many are defending the symbol, even making jokes about it, because it is not universally recognized.

It is fine to admit if you do not recognize the symbol as it was used by the Nazis.
It is fine to say you believe a person made an honest mistake out of ignorance.

However it IS a Nazi symbol.
If you are trying to rehabilitate it you may want to ask yourself why you are doing that.

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It's either that or Collin's Trump stamp lame54 14 hrs ago #1
So if I am understanding sarisataka 14 hrs ago #8
Kicking Collins to the curb is acceptable... lame54 14 hrs ago #14
I have no disagreement with that sarisataka 14 hrs ago #16
I don't think the symbol is being defended Figarosmom 13 hrs ago #49
There are several posts below sarisataka 13 hrs ago #53
Who is defending a Nazi symbol, other than the far right? idahoblue 12 hrs ago #77
Read the replies sarisataka 12 hrs ago #79
I don't think it's being defended... buzzycrumbhunger 11 hrs ago #128
It is being defended sarisataka 11 hrs ago #131
They can still go with Janet Mills. LisaL 14 hrs ago #26
Although still on the ballot... lame54 14 hrs ago #27
She is on the ballot and people can vote for her if they wish. LisaL 13 hrs ago #32
Maine does have Ranked Choice Voting TVguyCards 13 hrs ago #62
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado 12 hrs ago #81
Thank you :) TVguyCards 12 hrs ago #85
Janet Mills polls behind susan collins. Graham polls ahead. BComplex 12 hrs ago #88
Kind of meaningless to consider polling LisaL 10 hrs ago #134
You don't have to sell your soul iemanja 12 hrs ago #96
Mills and Costello are still on the ballot obamanut2012 11 hrs ago #122
If we want to a purity test have Pete Hegseth take off his shirt Ritabert 14 hrs ago #2
Would anyone here defend Hegseth? LisaL 14 hrs ago #3
Just saying that the GOP has one standard for themselves and one for us. Ritabert 13 hrs ago #37
Here no. But Republicans and Faux News would. Ritabert 13 hrs ago #41
My bad opinion of Hegseth Mossfern 9 hrs ago #150
For real Jilly_in_VA 9 hrs ago #151
Is anyone defending his tattos sarisataka 14 hrs ago #10
Or that he got them when he was drunk? LisaL 14 hrs ago #11
As I tried pointing out- it is NOT (!!!) about any tattoo sarisataka 14 hrs ago #17
Yes ABC123Easy 14 hrs ago #20
I am agreeing with your points. LisaL 14 hrs ago #23
I didn't mean to seem in opposition sarisataka 14 hrs ago #28
Of course people here would not defend Hegesth if he got the exact same tattoo when drunk. LisaL 13 hrs ago #30
I haven't seen one post claiming it is not a Nazi symbol. nt LAS14 13 hrs ago #64
Hegseth is a Republican. Republicans do not have to defend their behavior. JustABozoOnThisBus 13 hrs ago #31
So the argument is, if you can't beat them, join them? LisaL 13 hrs ago #33
Only if the split in the Senate is close. JustABozoOnThisBus 13 hrs ago #35
I get the sentiment Mz Pip 13 hrs ago #48
The point being: when did he get the tattoo? Ritabert 13 hrs ago #42
Too late. He's already been called a Nazi on DU. AloeVera 12 hrs ago #91
I don't think anyone's called him a Nazi and I don't think he is EX500rider 12 hrs ago #116
... and so we advocate withholding support Mossfern 11 hrs ago #121
I didn't advocate anything I just think he has a lot of red flags in my opinion EX500rider 11 hrs ago #126
What does bringing up "red flags" mean then? Mossfern 11 hrs ago #127
And Collins doesn't????? That's the choice. marble falls 8 hrs ago #160
It's means I wish Maine had found someone with less baggage to run. EX500rider 6 hrs ago #167
The point is winning against actual fascists. Envirogal 12 hrs ago #108
The fact that Franken defenders still diminish what he did is wrong EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #68
They are the party of white supremacy iemanja 12 hrs ago #98
Simple -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #4
The same can be said for the swastika sarisataka 14 hrs ago #12
No it wouldn't be the same... -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #39
What is the difference? sarisataka 13 hrs ago #43
Look, until this nonsense... -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #45
I recognized it immediately sarisataka 13 hrs ago #51
You can say anything you want -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #58
Incorrect sarisataka 13 hrs ago #60
If you are not making that assertion... -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #66
Stop opposing Nazism and historical revisionism? sarisataka 13 hrs ago #69
Very clearly illogical -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #73
The question was never about the tattoo sarisataka 12 hrs ago #76
Then, as I said, the tattoo is irrelevant. -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #87
Let me phrase this clearly- since it doesn't matter if I type slowly sarisataka 12 hrs ago #92
Stop dodging -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #104
You refuse to accept what I have stated sarisataka 12 hrs ago #109
Nonsense -misanthroptimist 10 hrs ago #137
I never heard of a totenkopf until this story, either. Americanme 10 hrs ago #140
Couldn't agree more -misanthroptimist 10 hrs ago #141
I'd be willing to bet a fairly large amount of money that the tattoo shop catalog where he bought it Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #165
I would bet you are correct sarisataka 6 hrs ago #169
Speak and so it shall be so. Behind the Aegis 13 hrs ago #47
Because Fox News wants control of the senate. Initech 14 hrs ago #5
Care to share examples of the behavior in question? RockRaven 14 hrs ago #6
Post number 4 is one example sarisataka 14 hrs ago #13
Why is so little effort being spent promoting other D candidates in the upcoming primary? RandomNumbers 14 hrs ago #7
Why did Sanders endorse Fetterman? LisaL 14 hrs ago #9
True, but what about Warren? RandomNumbers 14 hrs ago #15
We actually had a very good democratic alternative to Fetterman in a primary. LisaL 14 hrs ago #21
Because Nazis killed Jews Danmel 14 hrs ago #18
They might for Platner MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #24
That would be interesting to see what would happen sarisataka 13 hrs ago #34
Poor Sarisataka ABC123Easy 14 hrs ago #19
I saw that but sarisataka 14 hrs ago #22
Good for you! ABC123Easy 14 hrs ago #25
I showed this thread to my children sarisataka 9 hrs ago #149
Weaponized ignorance -- excellent term. betsuni 6 hrs ago #168
It was an opinion piece not an article, an article implies facts questionseverything 14 hrs ago #29
Really? As one of the less hostile repliers from yesterday..... ABC123Easy 13 hrs ago #36
I saw so many swatikas in India, they must all be Nazi's too Shellback Squid 13 hrs ago #38
Does that make swastikas acceptable everywhere sarisataka 13 hrs ago #44
the German SS was only one of many meanings... mike_c 13 hrs ago #40
Will you say the same of other Nazi symbols sarisataka 13 hrs ago #46
As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika. calimary 11 hrs ago #118
K&R WhiskeyGrinder 13 hrs ago #50
I think we need to look at intent Bluestocking 13 hrs ago #52
The skull and crossed femurs has a long history TexLaProgressive 13 hrs ago #54
No one is trying to 'rehabilitate' the Nazis RetiredParatrooper 13 hrs ago #55
Who is that guy? nt LAS14 13 hrs ago #70
Since the photo of von Mackensen sarisataka 12 hrs ago #75
The rules of DU require that we support Platner if he's the nominee Kaleva 13 hrs ago #56
And at no point have I stated sarisataka 13 hrs ago #67
I haven't paid much attention to the debate about the tattoo Kaleva 7 hrs ago #161
Fair enough sarisataka 7 hrs ago #163
Same to you! Kaleva 7 hrs ago #164
At this moment, he is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Their primary niyad 9 hrs ago #155
True Kaleva 7 hrs ago #162
One needs only to look at other political figures to answer that. RandySF 13 hrs ago #57
No one is defending the symbol, including platner. pat_k 13 hrs ago #59
Post above your show that statement is false sarisataka 13 hrs ago #63
I see no one defending the symbol. pat_k 12 hrs ago #97
And I was never asking about any man sarisataka 12 hrs ago #103
I see no posts that say that. You have to give me verbatim quotes (in context) that you read that way. pat_k 12 hrs ago #114
Post 4 sarisataka 11 hrs ago #117
Who's defending it? Nt LAS14 13 hrs ago #61
Have you read the replies sarisataka 13 hrs ago #65
I searched for it and found it in #4, which you referenced... LAS14 12 hrs ago #72
There are many others in this thread sarisataka 12 hrs ago #78
I have never denied or diminished the connection. I have simply wondered... LAS14 11 hrs ago #119
I haven't said you have denied its meaning. sarisataka 11 hrs ago #132
OK. nt LAS14 9 hrs ago #152
Just sayin'... buzzycrumbhunger 10 hrs ago #133
Think about this. CivicGrief 12 hrs ago #71
That was not my question, as I clearly stated sarisataka 12 hrs ago #80
The question is not in a vacuum. It is in relation to Platner. CivicGrief 12 hrs ago #82
Never said that, never implied that sarisataka 12 hrs ago #86
Platner was a sexist choice Pris 12 hrs ago #113
The symbol or offensive tattoo can be fairly easily removed Grim Chieftain 12 hrs ago #74
Yes, exactly. WestMichRad 12 hrs ago #110
Yeah, it's gotten cringingly weird now Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #83
Come on folks TVguyCards 12 hrs ago #84
You get it /nt sarisataka 12 hrs ago #89
Enough! MineralMan 12 hrs ago #90
The tattoo behind all of this orangecrush 12 hrs ago #94
I will not stop opposing or rehabilitating Nazis, their legacy and symbols. sarisataka 12 hrs ago #95
Nobody has done that. MineralMan 12 hrs ago #99
They have, in this thread sarisataka 12 hrs ago #105
MM is right. AloeVera 9 hrs ago #153
I have not seen Platner called a Nazi but I have no reason to doubt it. I haven't followed every thread. sarisataka 9 hrs ago #156
Rec'd Mossfern 9 hrs ago #154
I'm more curious as to how someone can defend an ongoing genocide, and endless wars instead of a tattoo; which Uncle Joe 12 hrs ago #93
Which genocide sarisataka 12 hrs ago #101
Any genocide, but particularly ones that our government, and our tax dollars are supporting. n/t Uncle Joe 12 hrs ago #102
Are we allowed to condemn the perpetrators of all the genocides? CivicGrief 10 hrs ago #143
Probably not the ones defended here daily for nearly 2 years. AloeVera 8 hrs ago #157
Intellectual and moral integrity iemanja 12 hrs ago #100
+1 demmiblue 12 hrs ago #106
who is defending that symbol??? LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #107
Again- read the replies sarisataka 12 hrs ago #111
Bullshit. This was not a "Nazi symbol" per se Bluetus 12 hrs ago #112
The particular symbol sarisataka 12 hrs ago #115
Be honest. When did you learn about this symbol? Bluetus 10 hrs ago #135
6th grade sarisataka 10 hrs ago #139
The totenkopf tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote 11 hrs ago #123
Nice. So if I have a T-shirt that has an arrow pointing upward, you will call me a Nazi? Bluetus 10 hrs ago #138
I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol Buzz cook 11 hrs ago #120
Read the thread sarisataka 11 hrs ago #130
This tattoo really bothers me LetMyPeopleVote 11 hrs ago #124
Would a Democratically-controlled US Senate bother you, if Platner Jack Valentino 6 hrs ago #166
Post removed Post removed 11 hrs ago #125
Post removed Post removed 11 hrs ago #129
Before this I had now idea what a totenkopf was. Hassin Bin Sober 10 hrs ago #136
He had the tattoo covered many months ago. Collins is still voting to fund the GESTAPO struggle4progress 10 hrs ago #142
That there is the correct perspective -misanthroptimist 9 hrs ago #146
Why is so much effort being spent trying to destroy a Democrat on this forum? n/t luv2fly 9 hrs ago #144
I hesitate to guess -misanthroptimist 9 hrs ago #145
That would be against the SOP sarisataka 9 hrs ago #147
Graham Platner reminds me a lot of Adam Kokesh Polybius 9 hrs ago #148
Maybe its just an awkward tattoo just like Musk's hitler salute was a awkward gesture per the ADL? Eko 8 hrs ago #158
The only thing awkward about Musk's gesture sarisataka 6 hrs ago #170
I agree. Eko 6 hrs ago #171
Being offended is a choice. Intractable 8 hrs ago #159
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