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CivicGrief

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71. Think about this.

Sat Jun 6, 2026, 04:52 PM

15 hrs ago

Which Democratic candidate has the best shot of unseating the incumbent Senator who is actively enabling actual fascists in the US today (no symbolism there)? Hint: Platner is +5 (at least) in every poll, and Mills is a statistical tie or worse. Do you think Platner is a wolf in sheep's clothing and will vote like Collins?

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Why is so much effort being spent defending a Nazi symbol? [View all] sarisataka 17 hrs ago OP

It's either that or Collin's Trump stamp lame54 17 hrs ago #1

So if I am understanding sarisataka 16 hrs ago #8

Kicking Collins to the curb is acceptable... lame54 16 hrs ago #14

I have no disagreement with that sarisataka 16 hrs ago #16

I don't think the symbol is being defended Figarosmom 15 hrs ago #49

There are several posts below sarisataka 15 hrs ago #53

Who is defending a Nazi symbol, other than the far right? idahoblue 15 hrs ago #77

Read the replies sarisataka 15 hrs ago #79

I don't think it's being defended... buzzycrumbhunger 13 hrs ago #128

It is being defended sarisataka 13 hrs ago #131

They can still go with Janet Mills. LisaL 16 hrs ago #26

Although still on the ballot... lame54 16 hrs ago #27

She is on the ballot and people can vote for her if they wish. LisaL 16 hrs ago #32

Maine does have Ranked Choice Voting TVguyCards 15 hrs ago #62

Welcome to DU! KS Toronado 15 hrs ago #81

Thank you :) TVguyCards 14 hrs ago #85

Janet Mills polls behind susan collins. Graham polls ahead. BComplex 14 hrs ago #88

Kind of meaningless to consider polling LisaL 13 hrs ago #134

You don't have to sell your soul iemanja 14 hrs ago #96

Mills and Costello are still on the ballot obamanut2012 13 hrs ago #122

If we want to a purity test have Pete Hegseth take off his shirt Ritabert 17 hrs ago #2

Would anyone here defend Hegseth? LisaL 16 hrs ago #3

Just saying that the GOP has one standard for themselves and one for us. Ritabert 15 hrs ago #37

Here no. But Republicans and Faux News would. Ritabert 15 hrs ago #41

My bad opinion of Hegseth Mossfern 11 hrs ago #150

For real Jilly_in_VA 11 hrs ago #151

Is anyone defending his tattos sarisataka 16 hrs ago #10

Or that he got them when he was drunk? LisaL 16 hrs ago #11

As I tried pointing out- it is NOT (!!!) about any tattoo sarisataka 16 hrs ago #17

Yes ABC123Easy 16 hrs ago #20

I am agreeing with your points. LisaL 16 hrs ago #23

I didn't mean to seem in opposition sarisataka 16 hrs ago #28

Of course people here would not defend Hegesth if he got the exact same tattoo when drunk. LisaL 16 hrs ago #30

I haven't seen one post claiming it is not a Nazi symbol. nt LAS14 15 hrs ago #64

Hegseth is a Republican. Republicans do not have to defend their behavior. JustABozoOnThisBus 16 hrs ago #31

So the argument is, if you can't beat them, join them? LisaL 16 hrs ago #33

Only if the split in the Senate is close. JustABozoOnThisBus 16 hrs ago #35

I get the sentiment Mz Pip 15 hrs ago #48

The point being: when did he get the tattoo? Ritabert 15 hrs ago #42

Too late. He's already been called a Nazi on DU. AloeVera 14 hrs ago #91

I don't think anyone's called him a Nazi and I don't think he is EX500rider 14 hrs ago #116

... and so we advocate withholding support Mossfern 13 hrs ago #121

I didn't advocate anything I just think he has a lot of red flags in my opinion EX500rider 13 hrs ago #126

What does bringing up "red flags" mean then? Mossfern 13 hrs ago #127

And Collins doesn't????? That's the choice. marble falls 10 hrs ago #160

It's means I wish Maine had found someone with less baggage to run. EX500rider 8 hrs ago #167

The point is winning against actual fascists. Envirogal 14 hrs ago #108

The fact that Franken defenders still diminish what he did is wrong EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #68

They are the party of white supremacy iemanja 14 hrs ago #98

Simple -misanthroptimist 16 hrs ago #4

The same can be said for the swastika sarisataka 16 hrs ago #12

No it wouldn't be the same... -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #39

What is the difference? sarisataka 15 hrs ago #43

Look, until this nonsense... -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #45

I recognized it immediately sarisataka 15 hrs ago #51

You can say anything you want -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #58

Incorrect sarisataka 15 hrs ago #60

If you are not making that assertion... -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #66

Stop opposing Nazism and historical revisionism? sarisataka 15 hrs ago #69

Very clearly illogical -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #73

The question was never about the tattoo sarisataka 15 hrs ago #76

Then, as I said, the tattoo is irrelevant. -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #87

Let me phrase this clearly- since it doesn't matter if I type slowly sarisataka 14 hrs ago #92

Stop dodging -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #104

You refuse to accept what I have stated sarisataka 14 hrs ago #109

Nonsense -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #137

I never heard of a totenkopf until this story, either. Americanme 12 hrs ago #140

Couldn't agree more -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #141

I'd be willing to bet a fairly large amount of money that the tattoo shop catalog where he bought it Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #165

I would bet you are correct sarisataka 8 hrs ago #169

Speak and so it shall be so. Behind the Aegis 15 hrs ago #47

Because Fox News wants control of the senate. Initech 16 hrs ago #5

Care to share examples of the behavior in question? RockRaven 16 hrs ago #6

Post number 4 is one example sarisataka 16 hrs ago #13

Why is so little effort being spent promoting other D candidates in the upcoming primary? RandomNumbers 16 hrs ago #7

Why did Sanders endorse Fetterman? LisaL 16 hrs ago #9

True, but what about Warren? RandomNumbers 16 hrs ago #15

We actually had a very good democratic alternative to Fetterman in a primary. LisaL 16 hrs ago #21

Because Nazis killed Jews Danmel 16 hrs ago #18

They might for Platner MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #24

That would be interesting to see what would happen sarisataka 16 hrs ago #34

Poor Sarisataka ABC123Easy 16 hrs ago #19

I saw that but sarisataka 16 hrs ago #22

Good for you! ABC123Easy 16 hrs ago #25

I showed this thread to my children sarisataka 11 hrs ago #149

Weaponized ignorance -- excellent term. betsuni 8 hrs ago #168

It was an opinion piece not an article, an article implies facts questionseverything 16 hrs ago #29

Really? As one of the less hostile repliers from yesterday..... ABC123Easy 16 hrs ago #36

I saw so many swatikas in India, they must all be Nazi's too Shellback Squid 15 hrs ago #38

Does that make swastikas acceptable everywhere sarisataka 15 hrs ago #44

the German SS was only one of many meanings... mike_c 15 hrs ago #40

Will you say the same of other Nazi symbols sarisataka 15 hrs ago #46

As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika. calimary 14 hrs ago #118

K&R WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #50

I think we need to look at intent Bluestocking 15 hrs ago #52

The skull and crossed femurs has a long history TexLaProgressive 15 hrs ago #54

No one is trying to 'rehabilitate' the Nazis RetiredParatrooper 15 hrs ago #55

Who is that guy? nt LAS14 15 hrs ago #70

Since the photo of von Mackensen sarisataka 15 hrs ago #75

The rules of DU require that we support Platner if he's the nominee Kaleva 15 hrs ago #56

And at no point have I stated sarisataka 15 hrs ago #67

I haven't paid much attention to the debate about the tattoo Kaleva 10 hrs ago #161

Fair enough sarisataka 10 hrs ago #163

Same to you! Kaleva 10 hrs ago #164

At this moment, he is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Their primary niyad 11 hrs ago #155

True Kaleva 10 hrs ago #162

One needs only to look at other political figures to answer that. RandySF 15 hrs ago #57

No one is defending the symbol, including platner. pat_k 15 hrs ago #59

Post above your show that statement is false sarisataka 15 hrs ago #63

I see no one defending the symbol. pat_k 14 hrs ago #97

And I was never asking about any man sarisataka 14 hrs ago #103

I see no posts that say that. You have to give me verbatim quotes (in context) that you read that way. pat_k 14 hrs ago #114

Post 4 sarisataka 14 hrs ago #117

Who's defending it? Nt LAS14 15 hrs ago #61

Have you read the replies sarisataka 15 hrs ago #65

I searched for it and found it in #4, which you referenced... LAS14 15 hrs ago #72

There are many others in this thread sarisataka 15 hrs ago #78

I have never denied or diminished the connection. I have simply wondered... LAS14 14 hrs ago #119

I haven't said you have denied its meaning. sarisataka 13 hrs ago #132

OK. nt LAS14 11 hrs ago #152

Just sayin'... buzzycrumbhunger 13 hrs ago #133

Think about this. CivicGrief 15 hrs ago #71

That was not my question, as I clearly stated sarisataka 15 hrs ago #80

The question is not in a vacuum. It is in relation to Platner. CivicGrief 14 hrs ago #82

Never said that, never implied that sarisataka 14 hrs ago #86

Platner was a sexist choice Pris 14 hrs ago #113

The symbol or offensive tattoo can be fairly easily removed Grim Chieftain 15 hrs ago #74

Yes, exactly. WestMichRad 14 hrs ago #110

Yeah, it's gotten cringingly weird now Sympthsical 14 hrs ago #83

Come on folks TVguyCards 14 hrs ago #84

You get it /nt sarisataka 14 hrs ago #89

Enough! MineralMan 14 hrs ago #90

The tattoo behind all of this orangecrush 14 hrs ago #94

I will not stop opposing or rehabilitating Nazis, their legacy and symbols. sarisataka 14 hrs ago #95

Nobody has done that. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #99

They have, in this thread sarisataka 14 hrs ago #105

MM is right. AloeVera 11 hrs ago #153

I have not seen Platner called a Nazi but I have no reason to doubt it. I haven't followed every thread. sarisataka 11 hrs ago #156

Rec'd Mossfern 11 hrs ago #154

I'm more curious as to how someone can defend an ongoing genocide, and endless wars instead of a tattoo; which Uncle Joe 14 hrs ago #93

Which genocide sarisataka 14 hrs ago #101

Any genocide, but particularly ones that our government, and our tax dollars are supporting. n/t Uncle Joe 14 hrs ago #102

Are we allowed to condemn the perpetrators of all the genocides? CivicGrief 12 hrs ago #143

Probably not the ones defended here daily for nearly 2 years. AloeVera 11 hrs ago #157

Intellectual and moral integrity iemanja 14 hrs ago #100

+1 demmiblue 14 hrs ago #106

who is defending that symbol??? LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #107

Again- read the replies sarisataka 14 hrs ago #111

OK, but your OP mentioned it... so I wasn't sure what you were referring to LymphocyteLover 14 min ago #172

Bullshit. This was not a "Nazi symbol" per se Bluetus 14 hrs ago #112

The particular symbol sarisataka 14 hrs ago #115

Be honest. When did you learn about this symbol? Bluetus 13 hrs ago #135

6th grade sarisataka 13 hrs ago #139

The totenkopf tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote 13 hrs ago #123

Nice. So if I have a T-shirt that has an arrow pointing upward, you will call me a Nazi? Bluetus 13 hrs ago #138

I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol Buzz cook 14 hrs ago #120

Read the thread sarisataka 13 hrs ago #130

This tattoo really bothers me LetMyPeopleVote 13 hrs ago #124

Would a Democratically-controlled US Senate bother you, if Platner Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #166

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Before this I had now idea what a totenkopf was. Hassin Bin Sober 13 hrs ago #136

He had the tattoo covered many months ago. Collins is still voting to fund the GESTAPO struggle4progress 12 hrs ago #142

That there is the correct perspective -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #146

Why is so much effort being spent trying to destroy a Democrat on this forum? n/t luv2fly 12 hrs ago #144

I hesitate to guess -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #145

That would be against the SOP sarisataka 11 hrs ago #147

Graham Platner reminds me a lot of Adam Kokesh Polybius 11 hrs ago #148

Maybe its just an awkward tattoo just like Musk's hitler salute was a awkward gesture per the ADL? Eko 10 hrs ago #158

The only thing awkward about Musk's gesture sarisataka 8 hrs ago #170

I agree. Eko 8 hrs ago #171

Being offended is a choice. Intractable 10 hrs ago #159

Chanting the magic slogan Medicare for All trumps The Curse of the Totenkopf. betsuni 9 min ago #173