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TVguyCards

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84. Come on folks
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 05:10 PM
20 hrs ago

Let's not make excuses for the Nazi Death Head. Some of the replies I'm seeing are very disheartening. It's a horrible symbol with a history deeply entrenched in Nazi history. Let us please not try and parse this with "but it's history before Nazis!" which is an argument used by the same morons the Blue Brothers ran off a bridge in Illinois. That is just pure cringe to even hear that argument made on here of all places 😬

Now I'd like to believe that the tell tale story of the ticker tape comes down to "Has Germany banned the Nazi Death Head?" and the answer to that question is a solid YES it has and it's been illegal for some time now at that. The SS-Totenkopf falls under paragraph Section 86a of the German Criminal Code (StGB), it is a criminal offence to publicly display, wear, manufacture, or disseminate symbols of unconstitutional or banned organizations.

Look, I realize this is a very hot button issue right now. We have to lock in and focus. We have fascists and their enablers to beat. I firmly believe Platner is so popular because of the policies he supports which the other candidates don't. We're in a dire situation right now in this country where many people are being harmed and the subject of violence. My gosh there's a thread on here about a lady calling in to CSPAN saying she's slowly starving to death because she's had her SNAP benefits cut so much. That's one example of a million right now.

For some perspective - It's a disgusting symbol, no question about it. You know what else is really disgusting? People running for office who can't even support single payer healthcare or don't support giving those people who are on SSDI living wages. It's literally legal to pay them pennies on the hour. I'd love to see the same energy Platner is being given to those others who's policies are literally killing people.

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It's either that or Collin's Trump stamp lame54 22 hrs ago #1
So if I am understanding sarisataka 21 hrs ago #8
Kicking Collins to the curb is acceptable... lame54 21 hrs ago #14
I have no disagreement with that sarisataka 21 hrs ago #16
I don't think the symbol is being defended Figarosmom 20 hrs ago #49
There are several posts below sarisataka 20 hrs ago #53
Who is defending a Nazi symbol, other than the far right? idahoblue 20 hrs ago #77
Read the replies sarisataka 20 hrs ago #79
So what conclusion is to be drawn about these so-called defenders CivicGrief 25 min ago #186
I don't think it's being defended... buzzycrumbhunger 18 hrs ago #128
It is being defended sarisataka 18 hrs ago #131
They can still go with Janet Mills. LisaL 21 hrs ago #26
Although still on the ballot... lame54 21 hrs ago #27
She is on the ballot and people can vote for her if they wish. LisaL 21 hrs ago #32
Maine does have Ranked Choice Voting TVguyCards 20 hrs ago #62
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado 20 hrs ago #81
Thank you :) TVguyCards 20 hrs ago #85
Janet Mills polls behind susan collins. Graham polls ahead. BComplex 20 hrs ago #88
Kind of meaningless to consider polling LisaL 18 hrs ago #134
Mills has no chance whatsoever ExtraGriz 2 hrs ago #177
They were stolen symbols and no shouldn't Blue Full Moon 2 hrs ago #175
No, you're making a big deal of it oldmanlynn 1 hr ago #182
You don't have to sell your soul iemanja 19 hrs ago #96
Mills and Costello are still on the ballot obamanut2012 19 hrs ago #122
But why is Platner our only choice against Collins? yardwork 2 hrs ago #176
If we want to a purity test have Pete Hegseth take off his shirt Ritabert 22 hrs ago #2
Would anyone here defend Hegseth? LisaL 22 hrs ago #3
Just saying that the GOP has one standard for themselves and one for us. Ritabert 21 hrs ago #37
Here no. But Republicans and Faux News would. Ritabert 21 hrs ago #41
My bad opinion of Hegseth Mossfern 17 hrs ago #150
For real Jilly_in_VA 16 hrs ago #151
Is anyone defending his tattos sarisataka 21 hrs ago #10
Or that he got them when he was drunk? LisaL 21 hrs ago #11
As I tried pointing out- it is NOT (!!!) about any tattoo sarisataka 21 hrs ago #17
Yes ABC123Easy 21 hrs ago #20
I am agreeing with your points. LisaL 21 hrs ago #23
I didn't mean to seem in opposition sarisataka 21 hrs ago #28
Of course people here would not defend Hegesth if he got the exact same tattoo when drunk. LisaL 21 hrs ago #30
I haven't seen one post claiming it is not a Nazi symbol. nt LAS14 20 hrs ago #64
Hegseth is a Republican. Republicans do not have to defend their behavior. JustABozoOnThisBus 21 hrs ago #31
So the argument is, if you can't beat them, join them? LisaL 21 hrs ago #33
Only if the split in the Senate is close. JustABozoOnThisBus 21 hrs ago #35
I get the sentiment Mz Pip 20 hrs ago #48
The point being: when did he get the tattoo? Ritabert 20 hrs ago #42
Too late. He's already been called a Nazi on DU. AloeVera 19 hrs ago #91
I don't think anyone's called him a Nazi and I don't think he is EX500rider 19 hrs ago #116
... and so we advocate withholding support Mossfern 19 hrs ago #121
I didn't advocate anything I just think he has a lot of red flags in my opinion EX500rider 18 hrs ago #126
What does bringing up "red flags" mean then? Mossfern 18 hrs ago #127
And Collins doesn't????? That's the choice. marble falls 15 hrs ago #160
It's means I wish Maine had found someone with less baggage to run. EX500rider 14 hrs ago #167
The point is winning against actual fascists. Envirogal 19 hrs ago #108
The fact that Franken defenders still diminish what he did is wrong EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #68
They are the party of white supremacy iemanja 19 hrs ago #98
You really want Collins... lame54 56 min ago #185
Simple -misanthroptimist 22 hrs ago #4
The same can be said for the swastika sarisataka 21 hrs ago #12
No it wouldn't be the same... -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #39
What is the difference? sarisataka 20 hrs ago #43
Look, until this nonsense... -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #45
I recognized it immediately sarisataka 20 hrs ago #51
You can say anything you want -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #58
Incorrect sarisataka 20 hrs ago #60
If you are not making that assertion... -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #66
Stop opposing Nazism and historical revisionism? sarisataka 20 hrs ago #69
Very clearly illogical -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #73
The question was never about the tattoo sarisataka 20 hrs ago #76
Then, as I said, the tattoo is irrelevant. -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #87
Let me phrase this clearly- since it doesn't matter if I type slowly sarisataka 19 hrs ago #92
Stop dodging -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #104
You refuse to accept what I have stated sarisataka 19 hrs ago #109
Nonsense -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #137
I never heard of a totenkopf until this story, either. Americanme 17 hrs ago #140
Couldn't agree more -misanthroptimist 17 hrs ago #141
I'd be willing to bet a fairly large amount of money that the tattoo shop catalog where he bought it Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #165
I would bet you are correct sarisataka 13 hrs ago #169
Speak and so it shall be so. Behind the Aegis 20 hrs ago #47
Because Fox News wants control of the senate. Initech 22 hrs ago #5
Care to share examples of the behavior in question? RockRaven 22 hrs ago #6
Post number 4 is one example sarisataka 21 hrs ago #13
Why is so little effort being spent promoting other D candidates in the upcoming primary? RandomNumbers 22 hrs ago #7
Why did Sanders endorse Fetterman? LisaL 21 hrs ago #9
True, but what about Warren? RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #15
We actually had a very good democratic alternative to Fetterman in a primary. LisaL 21 hrs ago #21
Because Nazis killed Jews Danmel 21 hrs ago #18
They might for Platner MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #24
That would be interesting to see what would happen sarisataka 21 hrs ago #34
Poor Sarisataka ABC123Easy 21 hrs ago #19
I saw that but sarisataka 21 hrs ago #22
Good for you! ABC123Easy 21 hrs ago #25
I showed this thread to my children sarisataka 17 hrs ago #149
Weaponized ignorance -- excellent term. betsuni 14 hrs ago #168
It was an opinion piece not an article, an article implies facts questionseverything 21 hrs ago #29
Really? As one of the less hostile repliers from yesterday..... ABC123Easy 21 hrs ago #36
I saw so many swatikas in India, they must all be Nazi's too Shellback Squid 21 hrs ago #38
Does that make swastikas acceptable everywhere sarisataka 20 hrs ago #44
the German SS was only one of many meanings... mike_c 21 hrs ago #40
Will you say the same of other Nazi symbols sarisataka 20 hrs ago #46
As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika. calimary 19 hrs ago #118
K&R WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #50
I think we need to look at intent Bluestocking 20 hrs ago #52
The skull and crossed femurs has a long history TexLaProgressive 20 hrs ago #54
No one is trying to 'rehabilitate' the Nazis RetiredParatrooper 20 hrs ago #55
Who is that guy? nt LAS14 20 hrs ago #70
Since the photo of von Mackensen sarisataka 20 hrs ago #75
The rules of DU require that we support Platner if he's the nominee Kaleva 20 hrs ago #56
And at no point have I stated sarisataka 20 hrs ago #67
I haven't paid much attention to the debate about the tattoo Kaleva 15 hrs ago #161
Fair enough sarisataka 15 hrs ago #163
Same to you! Kaleva 15 hrs ago #164
At this moment, he is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Their primary niyad 16 hrs ago #155
True Kaleva 15 hrs ago #162
One needs only to look at other political figures to answer that. RandySF 20 hrs ago #57
No one is defending the symbol, including platner. pat_k 20 hrs ago #59
Post above your show that statement is false sarisataka 20 hrs ago #63
I see no one defending the symbol. pat_k 19 hrs ago #97
And I was never asking about any man sarisataka 19 hrs ago #103
I see no posts that say that. You have to give me verbatim quotes (in context) that you read that way. pat_k 19 hrs ago #114
Post 4 sarisataka 19 hrs ago #117
Who's defending it? Nt LAS14 20 hrs ago #61
Have you read the replies sarisataka 20 hrs ago #65
I searched for it and found it in #4, which you referenced... LAS14 20 hrs ago #72
There are many others in this thread sarisataka 20 hrs ago #78
I have never denied or diminished the connection. I have simply wondered... LAS14 19 hrs ago #119
I haven't said you have denied its meaning. sarisataka 18 hrs ago #132
OK. nt LAS14 16 hrs ago #152
Just sayin'... buzzycrumbhunger 18 hrs ago #133
Think about this. CivicGrief 20 hrs ago #71
That was not my question, as I clearly stated sarisataka 20 hrs ago #80
The question is not in a vacuum. It is in relation to Platner. CivicGrief 20 hrs ago #82
Never said that, never implied that sarisataka 20 hrs ago #86
Platner was a sexist choice Pris 19 hrs ago #113
The symbol or offensive tattoo can be fairly easily removed Grim Chieftain 20 hrs ago #74
Yes, exactly. WestMichRad 19 hrs ago #110
Yeah, it's gotten cringingly weird now Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #83
Come on folks TVguyCards 20 hrs ago #84
You get it /nt sarisataka 20 hrs ago #89
Enough! MineralMan 20 hrs ago #90
The tattoo behind all of this orangecrush 19 hrs ago #94
I will not stop opposing or rehabilitating Nazis, their legacy and symbols. sarisataka 19 hrs ago #95
Nobody has done that. MineralMan 19 hrs ago #99
They have, in this thread sarisataka 19 hrs ago #105
MM is right. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #153
I have not seen Platner called a Nazi but I have no reason to doubt it. I haven't followed every thread. sarisataka 16 hrs ago #156
Rec'd Mossfern 16 hrs ago #154
I'm more curious as to how someone can defend an ongoing genocide, and endless wars instead of a tattoo; which Uncle Joe 19 hrs ago #93
Which genocide sarisataka 19 hrs ago #101
Any genocide, but particularly ones that our government, and our tax dollars are supporting. n/t Uncle Joe 19 hrs ago #102
Are we allowed to condemn the perpetrators of all the genocides? CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #143
Probably not the ones defended here daily for nearly 2 years. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #157
Intellectual and moral integrity iemanja 19 hrs ago #100
+1 demmiblue 19 hrs ago #106
who is defending that symbol??? LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #107
Again- read the replies sarisataka 19 hrs ago #111
OK, but your OP mentioned it... so I wasn't sure what you were referring to LymphocyteLover 5 hrs ago #172
Bullshit. This was not a "Nazi symbol" per se Bluetus 19 hrs ago #112
The particular symbol sarisataka 19 hrs ago #115
Be honest. When did you learn about this symbol? Bluetus 18 hrs ago #135
6th grade sarisataka 18 hrs ago #139
The totenkopf tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote 19 hrs ago #123
Nice. So if I have a T-shirt that has an arrow pointing upward, you will call me a Nazi? Bluetus 18 hrs ago #138
I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol Buzz cook 19 hrs ago #120
Read the thread sarisataka 18 hrs ago #130
This tattoo really bothers me LetMyPeopleVote 18 hrs ago #124
Would a Democratically-controlled US Senate bother you, if Platner Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #166
Isn't the tattoo still there, but covered up? lapucelle 1 hr ago #180
I would like to see a Democrat defeat Collins but I do not believe that Platner is the right person LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #183
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Post removed Post removed 18 hrs ago #129
Before this I had now idea what a totenkopf was. Hassin Bin Sober 18 hrs ago #136
No. You absolutely did! CivicGrief 18 min ago #187
He had the tattoo covered many months ago. Collins is still voting to fund the GESTAPO struggle4progress 17 hrs ago #142
That there is the correct perspective -misanthroptimist 17 hrs ago #146
Why is so much effort being spent trying to destroy a Democrat on this forum? n/t luv2fly 17 hrs ago #144
I hesitate to guess -misanthroptimist 17 hrs ago #145
That would be against the SOP sarisataka 17 hrs ago #147
Graham Platner reminds me a lot of Adam Kokesh Polybius 17 hrs ago #148
Maybe its just an awkward tattoo just like Musk's hitler salute was a awkward gesture per the ADL? Eko 15 hrs ago #158
The only thing awkward about Musk's gesture sarisataka 13 hrs ago #170
I agree. Eko 13 hrs ago #171
Being offended is a choice. Intractable 15 hrs ago #159
Chanting the magic slogan Medicare for All trumps The Curse of the Totenkopf. betsuni 5 hrs ago #173
No. They cede power by thinking they CivicGrief 1 hr ago #179
It's not the tattoo, it's the attack from centrists against progressive candidates. Emile 4 hrs ago #174
What exactly makes Platner "progressive"? He's against an assault weapons ban, lapucelle 1 hr ago #184
"We are oft to blame in this... Torchlight 1 hr ago #178
More circular firing, squad stuff right here oldmanlynn 1 hr ago #181
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