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118. As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika.

Sat Jun 6, 2026, 05:58 PM

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It’s just when humans get ahold of it and add new “meanings” that are evil. One of the best examples is from Germany during WW2, when it came to symbolize the worst evil imaginable.

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Why is so much effort being spent defending a Nazi symbol? [View all] sarisataka 20 hrs ago OP

It's either that or Collin's Trump stamp lame54 20 hrs ago #1

So if I am understanding sarisataka 20 hrs ago #8

Kicking Collins to the curb is acceptable... lame54 20 hrs ago #14

I have no disagreement with that sarisataka 20 hrs ago #16

I don't think the symbol is being defended Figarosmom 19 hrs ago #49

There are several posts below sarisataka 19 hrs ago #53

Who is defending a Nazi symbol, other than the far right? idahoblue 19 hrs ago #77

Read the replies sarisataka 18 hrs ago #79

I don't think it's being defended... buzzycrumbhunger 17 hrs ago #128

It is being defended sarisataka 17 hrs ago #131

They can still go with Janet Mills. LisaL 20 hrs ago #26

Although still on the ballot... lame54 20 hrs ago #27

She is on the ballot and people can vote for her if they wish. LisaL 20 hrs ago #32

Maine does have Ranked Choice Voting TVguyCards 19 hrs ago #62

Welcome to DU! KS Toronado 18 hrs ago #81

Thank you :) TVguyCards 18 hrs ago #85

Janet Mills polls behind susan collins. Graham polls ahead. BComplex 18 hrs ago #88

Kind of meaningless to consider polling LisaL 17 hrs ago #134

Mills has no chance whatsoever ExtraGriz 53 min ago #177

They were stolen symbols and no shouldn't Blue Full Moon 1 hr ago #175

No, you're making a big deal of it oldmanlynn 12 min ago #182

You don't have to sell your soul iemanja 18 hrs ago #96

Mills and Costello are still on the ballot obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #122

But why is Platner our only choice against Collins? yardwork 1 hr ago #176

If we want to a purity test have Pete Hegseth take off his shirt Ritabert 20 hrs ago #2

Would anyone here defend Hegseth? LisaL 20 hrs ago #3

Just saying that the GOP has one standard for themselves and one for us. Ritabert 19 hrs ago #37

Here no. But Republicans and Faux News would. Ritabert 19 hrs ago #41

My bad opinion of Hegseth Mossfern 15 hrs ago #150

For real Jilly_in_VA 15 hrs ago #151

Is anyone defending his tattos sarisataka 20 hrs ago #10

Or that he got them when he was drunk? LisaL 20 hrs ago #11

As I tried pointing out- it is NOT (!!!) about any tattoo sarisataka 20 hrs ago #17

Yes ABC123Easy 20 hrs ago #20

I am agreeing with your points. LisaL 20 hrs ago #23

I didn't mean to seem in opposition sarisataka 20 hrs ago #28

Of course people here would not defend Hegesth if he got the exact same tattoo when drunk. LisaL 20 hrs ago #30

I haven't seen one post claiming it is not a Nazi symbol. nt LAS14 19 hrs ago #64

Hegseth is a Republican. Republicans do not have to defend their behavior. JustABozoOnThisBus 20 hrs ago #31

So the argument is, if you can't beat them, join them? LisaL 20 hrs ago #33

Only if the split in the Senate is close. JustABozoOnThisBus 20 hrs ago #35

I get the sentiment Mz Pip 19 hrs ago #48

The point being: when did he get the tattoo? Ritabert 19 hrs ago #42

Too late. He's already been called a Nazi on DU. AloeVera 18 hrs ago #91

I don't think anyone's called him a Nazi and I don't think he is EX500rider 18 hrs ago #116

... and so we advocate withholding support Mossfern 17 hrs ago #121

I didn't advocate anything I just think he has a lot of red flags in my opinion EX500rider 17 hrs ago #126

What does bringing up "red flags" mean then? Mossfern 17 hrs ago #127

And Collins doesn't????? That's the choice. marble falls 14 hrs ago #160

It's means I wish Maine had found someone with less baggage to run. EX500rider 12 hrs ago #167

The point is winning against actual fascists. Envirogal 18 hrs ago #108

The fact that Franken defenders still diminish what he did is wrong EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #68

They are the party of white supremacy iemanja 18 hrs ago #98

Simple -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #4

The same can be said for the swastika sarisataka 20 hrs ago #12

No it wouldn't be the same... -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #39

What is the difference? sarisataka 19 hrs ago #43

Look, until this nonsense... -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #45

I recognized it immediately sarisataka 19 hrs ago #51

You can say anything you want -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #58

Incorrect sarisataka 19 hrs ago #60

If you are not making that assertion... -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #66

Stop opposing Nazism and historical revisionism? sarisataka 19 hrs ago #69

Very clearly illogical -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #73

The question was never about the tattoo sarisataka 19 hrs ago #76

Then, as I said, the tattoo is irrelevant. -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #87

Let me phrase this clearly- since it doesn't matter if I type slowly sarisataka 18 hrs ago #92

Stop dodging -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #104

You refuse to accept what I have stated sarisataka 18 hrs ago #109

Nonsense -misanthroptimist 16 hrs ago #137

I never heard of a totenkopf until this story, either. Americanme 16 hrs ago #140

Couldn't agree more -misanthroptimist 16 hrs ago #141

I'd be willing to bet a fairly large amount of money that the tattoo shop catalog where he bought it Jack Valentino 13 hrs ago #165

I would bet you are correct sarisataka 12 hrs ago #169

Speak and so it shall be so. Behind the Aegis 19 hrs ago #47

Because Fox News wants control of the senate. Initech 20 hrs ago #5

Care to share examples of the behavior in question? RockRaven 20 hrs ago #6

Post number 4 is one example sarisataka 20 hrs ago #13

Why is so little effort being spent promoting other D candidates in the upcoming primary? RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #7

Why did Sanders endorse Fetterman? LisaL 20 hrs ago #9

True, but what about Warren? RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #15

We actually had a very good democratic alternative to Fetterman in a primary. LisaL 20 hrs ago #21

Because Nazis killed Jews Danmel 20 hrs ago #18

They might for Platner MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #24

That would be interesting to see what would happen sarisataka 20 hrs ago #34

Poor Sarisataka ABC123Easy 20 hrs ago #19

I saw that but sarisataka 20 hrs ago #22

Good for you! ABC123Easy 20 hrs ago #25

I showed this thread to my children sarisataka 15 hrs ago #149

Weaponized ignorance -- excellent term. betsuni 12 hrs ago #168

It was an opinion piece not an article, an article implies facts questionseverything 20 hrs ago #29

Really? As one of the less hostile repliers from yesterday..... ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #36

I saw so many swatikas in India, they must all be Nazi's too Shellback Squid 19 hrs ago #38

Does that make swastikas acceptable everywhere sarisataka 19 hrs ago #44

the German SS was only one of many meanings... mike_c 19 hrs ago #40

Will you say the same of other Nazi symbols sarisataka 19 hrs ago #46

As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika. calimary 18 hrs ago #118

K&R WhiskeyGrinder 19 hrs ago #50

I think we need to look at intent Bluestocking 19 hrs ago #52

The skull and crossed femurs has a long history TexLaProgressive 19 hrs ago #54

No one is trying to 'rehabilitate' the Nazis RetiredParatrooper 19 hrs ago #55

Who is that guy? nt LAS14 19 hrs ago #70

Since the photo of von Mackensen sarisataka 19 hrs ago #75

The rules of DU require that we support Platner if he's the nominee Kaleva 19 hrs ago #56

And at no point have I stated sarisataka 19 hrs ago #67

I haven't paid much attention to the debate about the tattoo Kaleva 14 hrs ago #161

Fair enough sarisataka 14 hrs ago #163

Same to you! Kaleva 14 hrs ago #164

At this moment, he is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Their primary niyad 15 hrs ago #155

True Kaleva 14 hrs ago #162

One needs only to look at other political figures to answer that. RandySF 19 hrs ago #57

No one is defending the symbol, including platner. pat_k 19 hrs ago #59

Post above your show that statement is false sarisataka 19 hrs ago #63

I see no one defending the symbol. pat_k 18 hrs ago #97

And I was never asking about any man sarisataka 18 hrs ago #103

I see no posts that say that. You have to give me verbatim quotes (in context) that you read that way. pat_k 18 hrs ago #114

Post 4 sarisataka 18 hrs ago #117

Who's defending it? Nt LAS14 19 hrs ago #61

Have you read the replies sarisataka 19 hrs ago #65

I searched for it and found it in #4, which you referenced... LAS14 19 hrs ago #72

There are many others in this thread sarisataka 18 hrs ago #78

I have never denied or diminished the connection. I have simply wondered... LAS14 17 hrs ago #119

I haven't said you have denied its meaning. sarisataka 17 hrs ago #132

OK. nt LAS14 15 hrs ago #152

Just sayin'... buzzycrumbhunger 17 hrs ago #133

Think about this. CivicGrief 19 hrs ago #71

That was not my question, as I clearly stated sarisataka 18 hrs ago #80

The question is not in a vacuum. It is in relation to Platner. CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #82

Never said that, never implied that sarisataka 18 hrs ago #86

Platner was a sexist choice Pris 18 hrs ago #113

The symbol or offensive tattoo can be fairly easily removed Grim Chieftain 19 hrs ago #74

Yes, exactly. WestMichRad 18 hrs ago #110

Yeah, it's gotten cringingly weird now Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #83

Come on folks TVguyCards 18 hrs ago #84

You get it /nt sarisataka 18 hrs ago #89

Enough! MineralMan 18 hrs ago #90

The tattoo behind all of this orangecrush 18 hrs ago #94

I will not stop opposing or rehabilitating Nazis, their legacy and symbols. sarisataka 18 hrs ago #95

Nobody has done that. MineralMan 18 hrs ago #99

They have, in this thread sarisataka 18 hrs ago #105

MM is right. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #153

I have not seen Platner called a Nazi but I have no reason to doubt it. I haven't followed every thread. sarisataka 15 hrs ago #156

Rec'd Mossfern 15 hrs ago #154

I'm more curious as to how someone can defend an ongoing genocide, and endless wars instead of a tattoo; which Uncle Joe 18 hrs ago #93

Which genocide sarisataka 18 hrs ago #101

Any genocide, but particularly ones that our government, and our tax dollars are supporting. n/t Uncle Joe 18 hrs ago #102

Are we allowed to condemn the perpetrators of all the genocides? CivicGrief 16 hrs ago #143

Probably not the ones defended here daily for nearly 2 years. AloeVera 14 hrs ago #157

Intellectual and moral integrity iemanja 18 hrs ago #100

+1 demmiblue 18 hrs ago #106

who is defending that symbol??? LymphocyteLover 18 hrs ago #107

Again- read the replies sarisataka 18 hrs ago #111

OK, but your OP mentioned it... so I wasn't sure what you were referring to LymphocyteLover 4 hrs ago #172

Bullshit. This was not a "Nazi symbol" per se Bluetus 18 hrs ago #112

The particular symbol sarisataka 18 hrs ago #115

Be honest. When did you learn about this symbol? Bluetus 17 hrs ago #135

6th grade sarisataka 16 hrs ago #139

The totenkopf tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #123

Nice. So if I have a T-shirt that has an arrow pointing upward, you will call me a Nazi? Bluetus 16 hrs ago #138

I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol Buzz cook 17 hrs ago #120

Read the thread sarisataka 17 hrs ago #130

This tattoo really bothers me LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #124

Would a Democratically-controlled US Senate bother you, if Platner Jack Valentino 13 hrs ago #166

Isn't the tattoo still there, but covered up? lapucelle 15 min ago #180

I would like to see a Democrat defeat Collins but I do not believe that Platner is the right person LetMyPeopleVote 2 min ago #183

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Before this I had now idea what a totenkopf was. Hassin Bin Sober 17 hrs ago #136

He had the tattoo covered many months ago. Collins is still voting to fund the GESTAPO struggle4progress 16 hrs ago #142

That there is the correct perspective -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #146

Why is so much effort being spent trying to destroy a Democrat on this forum? n/t luv2fly 16 hrs ago #144

I hesitate to guess -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #145

That would be against the SOP sarisataka 15 hrs ago #147

Graham Platner reminds me a lot of Adam Kokesh Polybius 15 hrs ago #148

Maybe its just an awkward tattoo just like Musk's hitler salute was a awkward gesture per the ADL? Eko 14 hrs ago #158

The only thing awkward about Musk's gesture sarisataka 12 hrs ago #170

I agree. Eko 12 hrs ago #171

Being offended is a choice. Intractable 14 hrs ago #159

Chanting the magic slogan Medicare for All trumps The Curse of the Totenkopf. betsuni 4 hrs ago #173

No. They cede power by thinking they CivicGrief 21 min ago #179

It's not the tattoo, it's the attack from centrists against progressive candidates. Emile 3 hrs ago #174

"We are oft to blame in this... Torchlight 24 min ago #178

More circular firing, squad stuff right here oldmanlynn 13 min ago #181