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Buzz cook

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120. I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol

Sat Jun 6, 2026, 06:08 PM

16 hrs ago

The defense is that Plattner was to stupid, drunk, or privileged to recognize it as a Nazi symbol.
That is the testimony of the man who got a matching tattoo at the same time and place Plattner got his.

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Why is so much effort being spent defending a Nazi symbol? [View all] sarisataka 19 hrs ago OP

It's either that or Collin's Trump stamp lame54 19 hrs ago #1

So if I am understanding sarisataka 19 hrs ago #8

Kicking Collins to the curb is acceptable... lame54 19 hrs ago #14

I have no disagreement with that sarisataka 19 hrs ago #16

I don't think the symbol is being defended Figarosmom 18 hrs ago #49

There are several posts below sarisataka 18 hrs ago #53

Who is defending a Nazi symbol, other than the far right? idahoblue 18 hrs ago #77

Read the replies sarisataka 17 hrs ago #79

I don't think it's being defended... buzzycrumbhunger 16 hrs ago #128

It is being defended sarisataka 16 hrs ago #131

They can still go with Janet Mills. LisaL 19 hrs ago #26

Although still on the ballot... lame54 19 hrs ago #27

She is on the ballot and people can vote for her if they wish. LisaL 19 hrs ago #32

Maine does have Ranked Choice Voting TVguyCards 18 hrs ago #62

Welcome to DU! KS Toronado 17 hrs ago #81

Thank you :) TVguyCards 17 hrs ago #85

Janet Mills polls behind susan collins. Graham polls ahead. BComplex 17 hrs ago #88

Kind of meaningless to consider polling LisaL 16 hrs ago #134

They were stolen symbols and no shouldn't Blue Full Moon 22 min ago #175

You don't have to sell your soul iemanja 17 hrs ago #96

Mills and Costello are still on the ballot obamanut2012 16 hrs ago #122

But why is Platner our only choice against Collins? yardwork 8 min ago #176

If we want to a purity test have Pete Hegseth take off his shirt Ritabert 19 hrs ago #2

Would anyone here defend Hegseth? LisaL 19 hrs ago #3

Just saying that the GOP has one standard for themselves and one for us. Ritabert 18 hrs ago #37

Here no. But Republicans and Faux News would. Ritabert 18 hrs ago #41

My bad opinion of Hegseth Mossfern 14 hrs ago #150

For real Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #151

Is anyone defending his tattos sarisataka 19 hrs ago #10

Or that he got them when he was drunk? LisaL 19 hrs ago #11

As I tried pointing out- it is NOT (!!!) about any tattoo sarisataka 19 hrs ago #17

Yes ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #20

I am agreeing with your points. LisaL 19 hrs ago #23

I didn't mean to seem in opposition sarisataka 19 hrs ago #28

Of course people here would not defend Hegesth if he got the exact same tattoo when drunk. LisaL 19 hrs ago #30

I haven't seen one post claiming it is not a Nazi symbol. nt LAS14 18 hrs ago #64

Hegseth is a Republican. Republicans do not have to defend their behavior. JustABozoOnThisBus 19 hrs ago #31

So the argument is, if you can't beat them, join them? LisaL 19 hrs ago #33

Only if the split in the Senate is close. JustABozoOnThisBus 19 hrs ago #35

I get the sentiment Mz Pip 18 hrs ago #48

The point being: when did he get the tattoo? Ritabert 18 hrs ago #42

Too late. He's already been called a Nazi on DU. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #91

I don't think anyone's called him a Nazi and I don't think he is EX500rider 17 hrs ago #116

... and so we advocate withholding support Mossfern 16 hrs ago #121

I didn't advocate anything I just think he has a lot of red flags in my opinion EX500rider 16 hrs ago #126

What does bringing up "red flags" mean then? Mossfern 16 hrs ago #127

And Collins doesn't????? That's the choice. marble falls 13 hrs ago #160

It's means I wish Maine had found someone with less baggage to run. EX500rider 11 hrs ago #167

The point is winning against actual fascists. Envirogal 17 hrs ago #108

The fact that Franken defenders still diminish what he did is wrong EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #68

They are the party of white supremacy iemanja 17 hrs ago #98

Simple -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #4

The same can be said for the swastika sarisataka 19 hrs ago #12

No it wouldn't be the same... -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #39

What is the difference? sarisataka 18 hrs ago #43

Look, until this nonsense... -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #45

I recognized it immediately sarisataka 18 hrs ago #51

You can say anything you want -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #58

Incorrect sarisataka 18 hrs ago #60

If you are not making that assertion... -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #66

Stop opposing Nazism and historical revisionism? sarisataka 18 hrs ago #69

Very clearly illogical -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #73

The question was never about the tattoo sarisataka 18 hrs ago #76

Then, as I said, the tattoo is irrelevant. -misanthroptimist 17 hrs ago #87

Let me phrase this clearly- since it doesn't matter if I type slowly sarisataka 17 hrs ago #92

Stop dodging -misanthroptimist 17 hrs ago #104

You refuse to accept what I have stated sarisataka 17 hrs ago #109

Nonsense -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #137

I never heard of a totenkopf until this story, either. Americanme 15 hrs ago #140

Couldn't agree more -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #141

I'd be willing to bet a fairly large amount of money that the tattoo shop catalog where he bought it Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #165

I would bet you are correct sarisataka 11 hrs ago #169

Speak and so it shall be so. Behind the Aegis 18 hrs ago #47

Because Fox News wants control of the senate. Initech 19 hrs ago #5

Care to share examples of the behavior in question? RockRaven 19 hrs ago #6

Post number 4 is one example sarisataka 19 hrs ago #13

Why is so little effort being spent promoting other D candidates in the upcoming primary? RandomNumbers 19 hrs ago #7

Why did Sanders endorse Fetterman? LisaL 19 hrs ago #9

True, but what about Warren? RandomNumbers 19 hrs ago #15

We actually had a very good democratic alternative to Fetterman in a primary. LisaL 19 hrs ago #21

Because Nazis killed Jews Danmel 19 hrs ago #18

They might for Platner MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #24

That would be interesting to see what would happen sarisataka 19 hrs ago #34

Poor Sarisataka ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #19

I saw that but sarisataka 19 hrs ago #22

Good for you! ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #25

I showed this thread to my children sarisataka 14 hrs ago #149

Weaponized ignorance -- excellent term. betsuni 11 hrs ago #168

It was an opinion piece not an article, an article implies facts questionseverything 19 hrs ago #29

Really? As one of the less hostile repliers from yesterday..... ABC123Easy 18 hrs ago #36

I saw so many swatikas in India, they must all be Nazi's too Shellback Squid 18 hrs ago #38

Does that make swastikas acceptable everywhere sarisataka 18 hrs ago #44

the German SS was only one of many meanings... mike_c 18 hrs ago #40

Will you say the same of other Nazi symbols sarisataka 18 hrs ago #46

As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika. calimary 17 hrs ago #118

K&R WhiskeyGrinder 18 hrs ago #50

I think we need to look at intent Bluestocking 18 hrs ago #52

The skull and crossed femurs has a long history TexLaProgressive 18 hrs ago #54

No one is trying to 'rehabilitate' the Nazis RetiredParatrooper 18 hrs ago #55

Who is that guy? nt LAS14 18 hrs ago #70

Since the photo of von Mackensen sarisataka 18 hrs ago #75

The rules of DU require that we support Platner if he's the nominee Kaleva 18 hrs ago #56

And at no point have I stated sarisataka 18 hrs ago #67

I haven't paid much attention to the debate about the tattoo Kaleva 13 hrs ago #161

Fair enough sarisataka 13 hrs ago #163

Same to you! Kaleva 13 hrs ago #164

At this moment, he is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Their primary niyad 14 hrs ago #155

True Kaleva 13 hrs ago #162

One needs only to look at other political figures to answer that. RandySF 18 hrs ago #57

No one is defending the symbol, including platner. pat_k 18 hrs ago #59

Post above your show that statement is false sarisataka 18 hrs ago #63

I see no one defending the symbol. pat_k 17 hrs ago #97

And I was never asking about any man sarisataka 17 hrs ago #103

I see no posts that say that. You have to give me verbatim quotes (in context) that you read that way. pat_k 17 hrs ago #114

Post 4 sarisataka 17 hrs ago #117

Who's defending it? Nt LAS14 18 hrs ago #61

Have you read the replies sarisataka 18 hrs ago #65

I searched for it and found it in #4, which you referenced... LAS14 18 hrs ago #72

There are many others in this thread sarisataka 17 hrs ago #78

I have never denied or diminished the connection. I have simply wondered... LAS14 16 hrs ago #119

I haven't said you have denied its meaning. sarisataka 16 hrs ago #132

OK. nt LAS14 14 hrs ago #152

Just sayin'... buzzycrumbhunger 16 hrs ago #133

Think about this. CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #71

That was not my question, as I clearly stated sarisataka 17 hrs ago #80

The question is not in a vacuum. It is in relation to Platner. CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #82

Never said that, never implied that sarisataka 17 hrs ago #86

Platner was a sexist choice Pris 17 hrs ago #113

The symbol or offensive tattoo can be fairly easily removed Grim Chieftain 18 hrs ago #74

Yes, exactly. WestMichRad 17 hrs ago #110

Yeah, it's gotten cringingly weird now Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #83

Come on folks TVguyCards 17 hrs ago #84

You get it /nt sarisataka 17 hrs ago #89

Enough! MineralMan 17 hrs ago #90

The tattoo behind all of this orangecrush 17 hrs ago #94

I will not stop opposing or rehabilitating Nazis, their legacy and symbols. sarisataka 17 hrs ago #95

Nobody has done that. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #99

They have, in this thread sarisataka 17 hrs ago #105

MM is right. AloeVera 14 hrs ago #153

I have not seen Platner called a Nazi but I have no reason to doubt it. I haven't followed every thread. sarisataka 14 hrs ago #156

Rec'd Mossfern 14 hrs ago #154

I'm more curious as to how someone can defend an ongoing genocide, and endless wars instead of a tattoo; which Uncle Joe 17 hrs ago #93

Which genocide sarisataka 17 hrs ago #101

Any genocide, but particularly ones that our government, and our tax dollars are supporting. n/t Uncle Joe 17 hrs ago #102

Are we allowed to condemn the perpetrators of all the genocides? CivicGrief 15 hrs ago #143

Probably not the ones defended here daily for nearly 2 years. AloeVera 13 hrs ago #157

Intellectual and moral integrity iemanja 17 hrs ago #100

+1 demmiblue 17 hrs ago #106

who is defending that symbol??? LymphocyteLover 17 hrs ago #107

Again- read the replies sarisataka 17 hrs ago #111

OK, but your OP mentioned it... so I wasn't sure what you were referring to LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #172

Bullshit. This was not a "Nazi symbol" per se Bluetus 17 hrs ago #112

The particular symbol sarisataka 17 hrs ago #115

Be honest. When did you learn about this symbol? Bluetus 15 hrs ago #135

6th grade sarisataka 15 hrs ago #139

The totenkopf tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #123

Nice. So if I have a T-shirt that has an arrow pointing upward, you will call me a Nazi? Bluetus 15 hrs ago #138

I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol Buzz cook 16 hrs ago #120

Read the thread sarisataka 16 hrs ago #130

This tattoo really bothers me LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #124

Would a Democratically-controlled US Senate bother you, if Platner Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #166

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Before this I had now idea what a totenkopf was. Hassin Bin Sober 15 hrs ago #136

He had the tattoo covered many months ago. Collins is still voting to fund the GESTAPO struggle4progress 15 hrs ago #142

That there is the correct perspective -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #146

Why is so much effort being spent trying to destroy a Democrat on this forum? n/t luv2fly 14 hrs ago #144

I hesitate to guess -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #145

That would be against the SOP sarisataka 14 hrs ago #147

Graham Platner reminds me a lot of Adam Kokesh Polybius 14 hrs ago #148

Maybe its just an awkward tattoo just like Musk's hitler salute was a awkward gesture per the ADL? Eko 13 hrs ago #158

The only thing awkward about Musk's gesture sarisataka 11 hrs ago #170

I agree. Eko 11 hrs ago #171

Being offended is a choice. Intractable 13 hrs ago #159

Chanting the magic slogan Medicare for All trumps The Curse of the Totenkopf. betsuni 3 hrs ago #173

It's not the tattoo, it's the attack from centrists against progressive candidates. Emile 2 hrs ago #174