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122. Mills and Costello are still on the ballot

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Sat Jun 6, 2026, 06:10 PM

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We rallied around Becerra here when Swalwell was exposed, same can happen in Maine

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Why is so much effort being spent defending a Nazi symbol? [View all] sarisataka Yesterday OP

It's either that or Collin's Trump stamp lame54 Yesterday #1

So if I am understanding sarisataka Yesterday #8

Kicking Collins to the curb is acceptable... lame54 Yesterday #14

I have no disagreement with that sarisataka Yesterday #16

I don't think the symbol is being defended Figarosmom Yesterday #49

There are several posts below sarisataka Yesterday #53

Who is defending a Nazi symbol, other than the far right? idahoblue Yesterday #77

Read the replies sarisataka Yesterday #79

So what conclusion is to be drawn about these so-called defenders CivicGrief 6 hrs ago #186

Finally, perhaps some reflection sarisataka 5 hrs ago #192

I just don't see the responses as going down the path of revisionist history. CivicGrief 5 hrs ago #193

Understandable sarisataka 5 hrs ago #197

Learning moments are good for the nation's soul. CivicGrief 4 hrs ago #198

I don't think it's being defended... buzzycrumbhunger Yesterday #128

It is being defended sarisataka Yesterday #131

They can still go with Janet Mills. LisaL Yesterday #26

Although still on the ballot... lame54 Yesterday #27

She is on the ballot and people can vote for her if they wish. LisaL Yesterday #32

Maine does have Ranked Choice Voting TVguyCards Yesterday #62

Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Yesterday #81

Thank you :) TVguyCards Yesterday #85

Janet Mills polls behind susan collins. Graham polls ahead. BComplex Yesterday #88

Kind of meaningless to consider polling LisaL Yesterday #134

Mills has no chance whatsoever ExtraGriz 8 hrs ago #177

They were stolen symbols and no shouldn't Blue Full Moon 8 hrs ago #175

This symbol? sarisataka 5 hrs ago #195

No, you're making a big deal of it oldmanlynn 7 hrs ago #182

I specifically did not make that connection sarisataka 5 hrs ago #196

You don't have to sell your soul iemanja Yesterday #96

Mills and Costello are still on the ballot obamanut2012 Yesterday #122

But why is Platner our only choice against Collins? yardwork 8 hrs ago #176

If we want to a purity test have Pete Hegseth take off his shirt Ritabert Yesterday #2

Would anyone here defend Hegseth? LisaL Yesterday #3

Just saying that the GOP has one standard for themselves and one for us. Ritabert Yesterday #37

Here no. But Republicans and Faux News would. Ritabert Yesterday #41

My bad opinion of Hegseth Mossfern 23 hrs ago #150

For real Jilly_in_VA 23 hrs ago #151

Is anyone defending his tattos sarisataka Yesterday #10

Or that he got them when he was drunk? LisaL Yesterday #11

As I tried pointing out- it is NOT (!!!) about any tattoo sarisataka Yesterday #17

Yes ABC123Easy Yesterday #20

I am agreeing with your points. LisaL Yesterday #23

I didn't mean to seem in opposition sarisataka Yesterday #28

Of course people here would not defend Hegesth if he got the exact same tattoo when drunk. LisaL Yesterday #30

I haven't seen one post claiming it is not a Nazi symbol. nt LAS14 Yesterday #64

Hegseth is a Republican. Republicans do not have to defend their behavior. JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #31

So the argument is, if you can't beat them, join them? LisaL Yesterday #33

Only if the split in the Senate is close. JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #35

I get the sentiment Mz Pip Yesterday #48

The point being: when did he get the tattoo? Ritabert Yesterday #42

Too late. He's already been called a Nazi on DU. AloeVera Yesterday #91

I don't think anyone's called him a Nazi and I don't think he is EX500rider Yesterday #116

... and so we advocate withholding support Mossfern Yesterday #121

I didn't advocate anything I just think he has a lot of red flags in my opinion EX500rider Yesterday #126

What does bringing up "red flags" mean then? Mossfern Yesterday #127

And Collins doesn't????? That's the choice. marble falls 21 hrs ago #160

It's means I wish Maine had found someone with less baggage to run. EX500rider 20 hrs ago #167

The point is winning against actual fascists. Envirogal Yesterday #108

The fact that Franken defenders still diminish what he did is wrong EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #68

I read the article and remember it well. Envirogal 2 hrs ago #199

Well, hello again. n/t rzemanfl 1 hr ago #201

They are the party of white supremacy iemanja Yesterday #98

You really want Collins... lame54 7 hrs ago #185

Simple -misanthroptimist Yesterday #4

The same can be said for the swastika sarisataka Yesterday #12

No it wouldn't be the same... -misanthroptimist Yesterday #39

What is the difference? sarisataka Yesterday #43

Look, until this nonsense... -misanthroptimist Yesterday #45

I recognized it immediately sarisataka Yesterday #51

You can say anything you want -misanthroptimist Yesterday #58

Incorrect sarisataka Yesterday #60

If you are not making that assertion... -misanthroptimist Yesterday #66

Stop opposing Nazism and historical revisionism? sarisataka Yesterday #69

Very clearly illogical -misanthroptimist Yesterday #73

The question was never about the tattoo sarisataka Yesterday #76

Then, as I said, the tattoo is irrelevant. -misanthroptimist Yesterday #87

Let me phrase this clearly- since it doesn't matter if I type slowly sarisataka Yesterday #92

Stop dodging -misanthroptimist Yesterday #104

You refuse to accept what I have stated sarisataka Yesterday #109

Nonsense -misanthroptimist Yesterday #137

I never heard of a totenkopf until this story, either. Americanme Yesterday #140

Couldn't agree more -misanthroptimist Yesterday #141

Let me try explaining it. WarGamer 1 hr ago #202

But the death head skull is NOT as universally known as a nazi hate symbol, like the swastika. Americanme 30 min ago #203

I'd be willing to bet a fairly large amount of money that the tattoo shop catalog where he bought it Jack Valentino 20 hrs ago #165

I would bet you are correct sarisataka 20 hrs ago #169

Speak and so it shall be so. Behind the Aegis Yesterday #47

Because Fox News wants control of the senate. Initech Yesterday #5

Care to share examples of the behavior in question? RockRaven Yesterday #6

Post number 4 is one example sarisataka Yesterday #13

Why is so little effort being spent promoting other D candidates in the upcoming primary? RandomNumbers Yesterday #7

Why did Sanders endorse Fetterman? LisaL Yesterday #9

True, but what about Warren? RandomNumbers Yesterday #15

We actually had a very good democratic alternative to Fetterman in a primary. LisaL Yesterday #21

Because Nazis killed Jews Danmel Yesterday #18

They might for Platner MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #24

That would be interesting to see what would happen sarisataka Yesterday #34

Poor Sarisataka ABC123Easy Yesterday #19

I saw that but sarisataka Yesterday #22

Good for you! ABC123Easy Yesterday #25

I showed this thread to my children sarisataka 23 hrs ago #149

Weaponized ignorance -- excellent term. betsuni 20 hrs ago #168

It was an opinion piece not an article, an article implies facts questionseverything Yesterday #29

Really? As one of the less hostile repliers from yesterday..... ABC123Easy Yesterday #36

I saw so many swatikas in India, they must all be Nazi's too Shellback Squid Yesterday #38

Does that make swastikas acceptable everywhere sarisataka Yesterday #44

the German SS was only one of many meanings... mike_c Yesterday #40

Will you say the same of other Nazi symbols sarisataka Yesterday #46

As an art student, I saw many designs through history that included the swastika. calimary Yesterday #118

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #50

I think we need to look at intent Bluestocking Yesterday #52

The skull and crossed femurs has a long history TexLaProgressive Yesterday #54

No one is trying to 'rehabilitate' the Nazis RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #55

Who is that guy? nt LAS14 Yesterday #70

Since the photo of von Mackensen sarisataka Yesterday #75

The rules of DU require that we support Platner if he's the nominee Kaleva Yesterday #56

And at no point have I stated sarisataka Yesterday #67

I haven't paid much attention to the debate about the tattoo Kaleva 21 hrs ago #161

Fair enough sarisataka 21 hrs ago #163

Same to you! Kaleva 21 hrs ago #164

At this moment, he is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Their primary niyad 22 hrs ago #155

True Kaleva 21 hrs ago #162

One needs only to look at other political figures to answer that. RandySF Yesterday #57

No one is defending the symbol, including platner. pat_k Yesterday #59

Post above your show that statement is false sarisataka Yesterday #63

I see no one defending the symbol. pat_k Yesterday #97

And I was never asking about any man sarisataka Yesterday #103

I see no posts that say that. You have to give me verbatim quotes (in context) that you read that way. pat_k Yesterday #114

Post 4 sarisataka Yesterday #117

Who's defending it? Nt LAS14 Yesterday #61

Have you read the replies sarisataka Yesterday #65

I searched for it and found it in #4, which you referenced... LAS14 Yesterday #72

There are many others in this thread sarisataka Yesterday #78

I have never denied or diminished the connection. I have simply wondered... LAS14 Yesterday #119

I haven't said you have denied its meaning. sarisataka Yesterday #132

OK. nt LAS14 23 hrs ago #152

Just sayin'... buzzycrumbhunger Yesterday #133

Think about this. CivicGrief Yesterday #71

That was not my question, as I clearly stated sarisataka Yesterday #80

The question is not in a vacuum. It is in relation to Platner. CivicGrief Yesterday #82

Never said that, never implied that sarisataka Yesterday #86

Platner was a sexist choice Pris Yesterday #113

The symbol or offensive tattoo can be fairly easily removed Grim Chieftain Yesterday #74

Yes, exactly. WestMichRad Yesterday #110

Yeah, it's gotten cringingly weird now Sympthsical Yesterday #83

Come on folks TVguyCards Yesterday #84

You get it /nt sarisataka Yesterday #89

Enough! MineralMan Yesterday #90

The tattoo behind all of this orangecrush Yesterday #94

I will not stop opposing or rehabilitating Nazis, their legacy and symbols. sarisataka Yesterday #95

Nobody has done that. MineralMan Yesterday #99

They have, in this thread sarisataka Yesterday #105

MM is right. AloeVera 23 hrs ago #153

I have not seen Platner called a Nazi but I have no reason to doubt it. I haven't followed every thread. sarisataka 22 hrs ago #156

Rec'd Mossfern 22 hrs ago #154

I'm more curious as to how someone can defend an ongoing genocide, and endless wars instead of a tattoo; which Uncle Joe Yesterday #93

Which genocide sarisataka Yesterday #101

Any genocide, but particularly ones that our government, and our tax dollars are supporting. n/t Uncle Joe Yesterday #102

Are we allowed to condemn the perpetrators of all the genocides? CivicGrief 23 hrs ago #143

Probably not the ones defended here daily for nearly 2 years. AloeVera 22 hrs ago #157

Intellectual and moral integrity iemanja Yesterday #100

+1 demmiblue Yesterday #106

who is defending that symbol??? LymphocyteLover Yesterday #107

Again- read the replies sarisataka Yesterday #111

OK, but your OP mentioned it... so I wasn't sure what you were referring to LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #172

Bullshit. This was not a "Nazi symbol" per se Bluetus Yesterday #112

The particular symbol sarisataka Yesterday #115

Be honest. When did you learn about this symbol? Bluetus Yesterday #135

6th grade sarisataka Yesterday #139

The totenkopf tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #123

Nice. So if I have a T-shirt that has an arrow pointing upward, you will call me a Nazi? Bluetus Yesterday #138

I have yet to see anyone defend the symbol Buzz cook Yesterday #120

Read the thread sarisataka Yesterday #130

This tattoo really bothers me LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #124

Would a Democratically-controlled US Senate bother you, if Platner Jack Valentino 20 hrs ago #166

Isn't the tattoo still there, but covered up? lapucelle 7 hrs ago #180

I would like to see a Democrat defeat Collins but I do not believe that Platner is the right person LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #183

Well said. mcar 1 hr ago #200

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Post removed Post removed Yesterday #129

Before this I had now idea what a totenkopf was. Hassin Bin Sober Yesterday #136

No. You absolutely did! CivicGrief 6 hrs ago #187

He had the tattoo covered many months ago. Collins is still voting to fund the GESTAPO struggle4progress Yesterday #142

That there is the correct perspective -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #146

Why is so much effort being spent trying to destroy a Democrat on this forum? n/t luv2fly 23 hrs ago #144

I hesitate to guess -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #145

That would be against the SOP sarisataka 23 hrs ago #147

Graham Platner reminds me a lot of Adam Kokesh Polybius 23 hrs ago #148

Maybe its just an awkward tattoo just like Musk's hitler salute was a awkward gesture per the ADL? Eko 22 hrs ago #158

The only thing awkward about Musk's gesture sarisataka 20 hrs ago #170

I agree. Eko 20 hrs ago #171

Being offended is a choice. Intractable 22 hrs ago #159

Chanting the magic slogan Medicare for All trumps The Curse of the Totenkopf. betsuni 11 hrs ago #173

No. They cede power by thinking they CivicGrief 7 hrs ago #179

I don't understand. betsuni 6 hrs ago #188

I'm talking about Democrats who think moving to the center (hence, centrist) right is the CivicGrief 6 hrs ago #189

It's not the tattoo, it's the attack from centrists against progressive candidates. Emile 11 hrs ago #174

What exactly makes Platner "progressive"? He's against an assault weapons ban, lapucelle 7 hrs ago #184

I love me a genuine progressive. You may even say CivicGrief 5 hrs ago #191

"We are oft to blame in this... Torchlight 8 hrs ago #178

More circular firing, squad stuff right here oldmanlynn 7 hrs ago #181

I have read and reread this very long thread before responding. cksmithy 5 hrs ago #190

I appreciate your attention and thoughtful reply sarisataka 5 hrs ago #194